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post #1 of 19 Old 07-16-2016, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
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Horse attacks dog... Who's at fault???

Ok so I moved my horses to a new barn. I rent a whole 5 acre pasture for just my horses. There is a neighbor with a big Great Pyrenees dog. The dog is pretty nice and up until now things have been pretty good.
The dog has escaped her backyard plenty of times and even though other boarders have complained. My pasture backs up to her fence. So it's my wire fence and then like 3 feet of space and then her wooden fence.
So last week the dog escaped while I was there. My horses don't particularly like dogs but they usually just avoid them. My saddlebred, that darn horse lol, approaches the dog. And the dog snaps at his face (in a playful way) so my horse runs away. The dog starts chasing him. My horse, Red, turns around and stomps on the dog and kicks him. Dog limps away. I go to her house to let her know what happened. She doesn't seem to bothered by it because "it happens all the time" . Today I get a phone call saying that the dog has a shattered shoulder. And that it was my fault.
Now I am sorry that the dog was injured, but I don't thing I should be held accountable for that.
What do you guys think?
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post #2 of 19 Old 07-16-2016, 07:33 PM
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The dog was trespassing on someone else's property. That's not your fault. In my part of the world, you could have shot that dog dead for harassing your livestock and been within your rights.

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post #3 of 19 Old 07-16-2016, 07:35 PM
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I think a dog owner is responsible for taking reasonable means of keeping the dog on their property if not on a leash or under supervision. Same goes for horse owners. Your horses were where they were supposed to be, but the dog was not.

But it doesn't matter what I think, it matters what your local laws/ordinances say.....

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post #4 of 19 Old 07-16-2016, 07:38 PM
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First of all, it's their responsibility to keep the dog contained - not yours. You might want to see if your county, town, what-have-you, has a leash law, as many areas do. You may also want to see what if anything is stated about dogs bothering livestock - in many states, a dog that is harassing livestock can be shot legally. Your neighbor is lucky that you were nice enough to let her know what happened.

I would say from a legal standpoint that you are not liable for damages, because the dog was not under control, entered your property without your knowledge, and was harassing a horse to the point where the horse felt it needed to defend itself. Again, your neighbor is lucky that a broken bone is all that happened.
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post #5 of 19 Old 07-16-2016, 07:50 PM
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It is not your fault, it is the dog owner's fault for allowing their dog around horses. I try to let people know about the danger of dogs and horses. My horse had several "accidents" with dogs, ran over one, kicked two more with no major injuries except one dog had a broken tooth. Then she kicked my dog in the head and I realized these were not accidents, she was trying to harm the dogs.

Many people have their dogs around horses and have not had problems. I had dogs around horses for many years. I believe people are still risking their dog's life, and need to be told that. The nicest horse might have a bad day and kick the dog, and then the dog will be seriously injured or dead. After my dog got kicked, the vet told me they take care of many, many dogs and cats each year that are injured or killed by horses. My dog survived and is fine, but it was a very large vet bill. I am just glad my ignorance didn't cost him his life.

It's never the horse owner's fault if a horse injures or kills a dog. It is to be expected when a 1,000 lb animal is loose with an animal only a fraction of it's size. People are very ignorant of this, and when dogs run up to our horses on the beach I say loudly, "Careful, don't kick the dog," and then people suddenly realize their dogs may be in danger and come gather them up. For some reason they think the dog is the threat to us. Dogs do bite horses sometimes, and injure them badly, but I know my horses would kill any dog that bit them.
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post #6 of 19 Old 07-16-2016, 09:10 PM
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the dog could be shot for bothering livestock where we live.
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The dog was trespassing on someone else's property. That's not your fault. In my part of the world, you could have shot that dog dead for harassing your livestock and been within your rights.
This^^^.
You're not at fault. Dog owner is. I would of kicked rocks at the dog from the get go for being in the wrong area and at the point of him chasing livestock he'd been shot.

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post #8 of 19 Old 07-16-2016, 09:42 PM
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I totally agree with the others. The dog's owner is at fault.
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post #9 of 19 Old 07-16-2016, 09:45 PM
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to a horse a dog is a preditor and see them as a threat
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post #10 of 19 Old 07-16-2016, 09:51 PM
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I think it is your neighbor's fault because she should have kept the dog off your property.
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