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post #1 of 12 Old 08-20-2019, 11:31 PM Thread Starter
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Horse learned to untie himself...

I usually don't tie my horse. He stands very well for all stages of tacking up, unless there's clover to be found.

Lately I've taken to harnessing him in a large field close to where I keep his cart. This field also happens to be very lush with delicious greenery, which means I have to tie him if I want the breastcollar to stay in place long enough for me to attach the traces to the cart. If he puts his head down to eat, he'll end up with the breastcollar around his ears. It's no bother to him, but it drives me nuts!

The last few times I went to tie him, he immediately pulled the free end on the quick release knot and kept on stuffing grass into his face. It's not like he fiddles with the knot with his teeth until he gets himself loose, he deliberatley pulls the free end of the rope and immediately unties himself. Great...

He has a very reliable head up cue by tapping the underside of his neck, and he knows eating in his bridle is a big no no. But I can't have a horse that just unties himself! Minor annoyances of the breastcollar aside, it's a safety hazard! He's not one to wander off, but I don't want him getting any ideas either.

Does anyone have any ideas on other ways to safely tie this horse?? Ideally I'd like to straight tie, though repairing the barn cross ties is an option if he keeps out smarting me. Maybe if I learn a few different types of knots for tying horses, he won't be able to untie himself as quickly.

I've also been considering a blocker tie ring, but I doubt the barn owners would be too pleased with me installing a tie ring on their property. Plus, I would always tie him to the steel round pen in the field. Not exactly something you could drill into easily. Could I get away with making a tie ring "portable" by attaching it to some nylon webbing with a steel clasp on the end?

Any suggestions are welcome!
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post #2 of 12 Old 08-20-2019, 11:42 PM
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Banker robbers knot. My horse can't untie if leave the tail end short, and he sure has tried!
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post #3 of 12 Old 08-20-2019, 11:50 PM
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You can lock your quick release knot by putting the tail of the lead through the loop. If you have to take it a step further you can make the loop small enough that it's not easy for him to pull the tail end out.

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post #4 of 12 Old 08-21-2019, 06:53 AM
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I do what I know as an 'idiots knot' which is sort of a chain of a few quick releases thru each other. I put the tail of the rope outside the fence too, as I have one of those dastardly houdinis too!

& there's no rule to say you have to attach a blocker tie ring(or I often use an abseilers figure 8) permanently to anything. I have a few which I keep in my trailer & saddlebag, to tie/clip to wherever, in case there's nowhere safe to tie firm.
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post #5 of 12 Old 08-21-2019, 07:12 AM
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Sorry can’t help on this one, just thought I share the sympathy as my horse knows how to as well, but luckily the first thing I taught him when I bought him was to ground tie. It’s amazing how smart they can be at times yet are scared of the littlest things like plastic bags!!
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Agree with JCnGrace on the locking method as the last step of a quick release. If he pulls the loose end, it will only make the last loop tighter instead of releasing. It does defeat by only one step the quick release feature, you have to put the loose end back thru to re=establish being able to pulll to release. This works with bank robbers knot, daisy chain, horseman's hitch,,,,as far as I know, any quick release knot can also be 'locked'.
The video that wasesbear posted shows a different way to lock, that was pretty cool-never learned that method. The lock that I'm talking about would be simply threading the loose end through the loop Vs making a locking loop as shown in the video. Either way would solve your problem.
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post #7 of 12 Old 08-21-2019, 11:12 AM
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Wait till you have one that unties himself/herself... and everyone else.


On the positive side, Oops is 3 now and will help unload everyone off the trailer.


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post #8 of 12 Old 08-21-2019, 03:02 PM
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I've also looped it through one tie ring, then actually tied it off farther down the fence or to the next ring that the horse couldn't reach. I use a longer lead rope than many, so this works very well with my Houdini Horse.
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post #9 of 12 Old 08-21-2019, 03:21 PM
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Agree with JCnGrace on the locking method as the last step of a quick release. If he pulls the loose end, it will only make the last loop tighter instead of releasing. It does defeat by only one step the quick release feature, you have to put the loose end back thru to re=establish being able to pulll to release. This works with bank robbers knot, daisy chain, horseman's hitch,,,,as far as I know, any quick release knot can also be 'locked'.
The video that wasesbear posted shows a different way to lock, that was pretty cool-never learned that method. The lock that I'm talking about would be simply threading the loose end through the loop Vs making a locking loop as shown in the video. Either way would solve your problem.
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Here is a better video giving the reasoning to use the bank robbers knot


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post #10 of 12 Old 08-22-2019, 05:39 PM
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You've never had a horse do that before? I think all mine know how to untie themselves. Just stick the tail through the loop.
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