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post #11 of 37 Old 05-02-2013, 04:39 AM
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Many, if not most, people don't jump more than once a week. Maybe twice a week, if they ride 5 - 6 days a week. It can be pretty hard on horses, and flatwork is really important to riding a good course too. There are heaps of exercises you can practice on the flat to improve your jumping too.

As far as convincing parents, I asked about 20 times a day for 3 years and they eventually gave in. I had to sign a document stating I would go out there everyday to care for my horse and keep at least a B average at school. Even then they weren't prepared for the responsibility that THEY had to take on.

If you're old enough to get a job - then get one and save, save, save. Show them your savings record and show them how seriously you are taking this. Find your way out to the horse everyday, commit to the things your parents find important too - improve your school work, spend time with family etc. Give them no reason to doubt you.
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post #12 of 37 Old 05-02-2013, 04:50 AM
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Horse ownership. Its a paddock you throw money into every time you walk by. The buying of the horse is just the begining

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post #13 of 37 Old 05-02-2013, 10:17 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks everybody and also the $500/mo is 4 lessons a month, $50/each, and then $305 for the half/lease. Ya, that much money for riding 1x or 2x/week was pretty crappy, so that's part of the reason I had to drop the lease on the first horse! I understand that this will take a while to convince my parents, and all the feedback is helpful!
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post #14 of 37 Old 05-02-2013, 11:31 AM
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How often are you planning on jumping?

A horse is not an object... "Woohoo I own him, lets jump his legs off!".

Jumping 1x per week is a perfectly sufficient amount of jumping. There's more to jumping than going over jumps so you can ride more than 1x per week in your discipline IF you choose to.
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post #15 of 37 Old 05-02-2013, 08:56 PM
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Have you considered a full lease? One where you aren't restricted to the days you can ride on? It'll be more expensive than what you're paying now, and lessons will probably be separate, so that's another cost, but it will be MUCH cheaper than buying your own horse and sustaining it.
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post #16 of 37 Old 05-02-2013, 10:57 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by Delfina View Post
How often are you planning on jumping?

A horse is not an object... "Woohoo I own him, lets jump his legs off!".

Jumping 1x per week is a perfectly sufficient amount of jumping. There's more to jumping than going over jumps so you can ride more than 1x per week in your discipline IF you choose to.
No, I don't want to that often, just like, 2x/week max! The thing is, it's just not the same know that the horse you love doesn't belong to you. I have several friends who own horses, and I think that it has a lot of advantages. If you are the only person who rides your horse, then you can kinda train that horse to expect your techniques and stuff, I try as much as I can to do that with my lease, but since there are usually at least 3 other people who ride him a week besides me, (in lessons), then it's just kinda hard. I also don't always know how he's gonna feel each time i hop on, was his last rider good or bad, were their hands light or heavy?, etc. Just these kinda things.
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post #17 of 37 Old 05-03-2013, 02:09 AM
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Have you actually asked your parents about your own horse yet? I'm sure they know that you want your own horse eventually, but from what I've read (and I could have misunderstood) have you told them, "Mom, Dad, I think it is time for my own horse"? Find out about costs. If you think your family can afford it, and it turns out they can, I agree with with budget sheets and something well thought-out. If you have been leasing for such a long time, they may be more open to the idea than you think.

Also consider what barn you are at. Where in California are you? I'm also in California, and depending on what part of the state you live in, I might be able to help you find a cheaper boarding place and/or lease.

For the record, I understand where you are coming from. I used to ride 2-3 times a week for free (my trainer needed help with the horses while she was laid up with an injury) and I fell in love with my horse. I worked with her for a few years prior, but the more I worked her, the more I loved her. Only another girl leased 2 days a week and every now and then she'd be used in a lesson or taken out. I couldn't stand it. I bought her this past March and it was the best decesion I ever made. I couldn't be happier knowing I have her all to myself. While I now have to pay to ride, technically (paying board/feed/ etc) it is worth it to be able to make every decesion about my horse myself-how she is trained, what she is trained in, how to discipline her, who can ride her and when, etc. We have been jumping lately. I jump 1-3 times a week, BUT I don't jump alot. Like seriously, we will maybe actually go over a jump 4-5 times total in a single ride. Typically the 1/wk rule stands, and some weeks I don't jump at all. So far this week she has only been jumped literally one time. I jumped her over a 2' cross rail on Tuesday, and we have only done flat work since. Sundays tend to be "jump days" when we focus mostly on that.

That was all kind of off topic, haha. But yeah.

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post #18 of 37 Old 05-03-2013, 06:47 AM
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Budget it out and propose it to them like what has already been suggested. That would be the best way and accept if they say no. Even if the costs end up being exactly the same of ownership vs. lease - there are still things like surprise vet visits that will have to be factored in. I suspect on the half lease if the horse is injured or otherwise needs a vet that it still falls on the owner to be responsible for paying for that cost. When its your own horse that cost will be yours to prepare for and that can easily end up being over $1000 or more in emergency care. Sometimes its not the day to day costs that are the deciding factor, but if they are willing to take on the "maybe" issues that can arrise.

Also give your parents a big hug for allowing you the opportunity to lease and take lessons. A lot of kids do not get that chance so I really hope you appreciate it. Yes it can be hard because its not "your" horse, but its a lot better than no riding at all!

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post #19 of 37 Old 05-04-2013, 03:00 PM
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ponylover.. I was making a point. You had stated your parents could afford it.
It sounds if you want more time riding, with more chances to advance you would be better off leasing. It sounds if you are paying too much, as Others have also stated. If you buy a horse / pony and advance over that animals level, you would need to sell it in order to find another horse with a higher skill level. If you get attached then you would not want to sell and then what you do ?
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post #20 of 37 Old 05-04-2013, 03:29 PM
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My parents didn't ever want to buy me a horse, but they did pay for my riding lessons while I was at school. I respected that and was grateful for the lessons. After school I lead outrides at the riding school as a way to get to ride. I learnt as much as possible from my lessons, outrides and just hanging about at the riding school until I was able to afford a horse myself. I bought him with my bursary money last year and he's the best horse I could have hoped for. So now I have my horse and all the waiting has been more than worthwhile. Maybe waiting isn't the worst thing in the world, hey. :)
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