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post #1 of 10 Old 03-04-2016, 05:31 AM Thread Starter
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Horse Shopping Makes Me Crazy

I think I might be crazy. I am seriously considering going to see a horse that is precisely what I have been avoiding looking at.

A chestnut Arab mare.

UGH.

I've never been a huge fan of Arabs. I've ridden a couple and love their movement, but their look was never the sort of thing I was into. I'm also a 'believer' in the theory that nothing is worse than a chestnut mare xD

I've been specifically looking at only geldings because of the possibility of one of them being silly when one is in heat, and because I figure I have enough moodswings on my own, without a mare in the picture. But, this one is so tempting :/

Considering the exact same thing happened when car shopping 'back in the day' (my guidelines for my parents were nothing white, and definitely no Mitsubishi Magnas. Guess what I got, and I haven't looked back since), I kind of feel like this might be 'right'.

Plus, she's registered and has good endurance bloodlines. Considering I'm interested in doing endurance, this could be a step in the right direction.

She's 12, not nasty or marey and, although she's very forward, she's not crazy (apparently). Possibly the biggest negative is that she's only 14.3HH. My Standy is only about 15/15.1, so it's not THAT different, but I'm 5'7 and weigh around 250lbs. She looks to be build like an 'old school' Arab to me (short and compact without a huge dish), and the stud she's from apparently breeds with mainly Crabbet and Egyptian lines. Maybe she COULD handle my weight, but I think I'd look ridiculous and feel way too big :/ She'd probably be a much better fit for my mother (who loves arabs, is a few inches shorter than me and around 40lbs lighter), but where riding level is concerned, I don't think they'd be a good fit.

This could all be resolved by going to look at her, but she's 3 hours away so it's not something to do on a whim. She's really cheap as the seller bought her cheap off a friend who needed to get rid of her, and the seller needs to move her on because she has no use for her. If they don't find someone they like to buy her, they'll keep her to breed from.

This is mostly a rant to get my head together, but any thoughts/advice would be very welcome (particularly if anyone around my size has experience with horses that size).
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I'm currently trying to help an acquaintance sell her two mares... and they're both arabians and both chestnuts! lol. Mother and daughter pair, lovely girls.

I understand your reservations because of the drive, but I guess it comes down to if you honestly feel if you can get past the lack of height and her evil war paint (haha, kidding), she may be worth going to check out. Maybe take your mom with you and make an afternoon out of it.

I'm interested in endurance as well, and there are other breeds that are very suitable for the sport if you're interested in something larger, as I'm sure you already know.
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post #3 of 10 Old 03-04-2016, 06:32 AM Thread Starter
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I'm interested in endurance as well, and there are other breeds that are very suitable for the sport if you're interested in something larger, as I'm sure you already know.
Yup, if I weighed less (I don't plan to even attempt endurance until I lose a good bit of weight) I would get a Standy and train it for endurance :3 I must admit, there is a little niggle at the back of my mind going 'ooh, mare with endurance bloodlines; get her and put a big Standy stallion over her!', but I don't have any interest (let alone the time and money!) of breeding xD I kinda wish I did sometimes, because I have an acquaintance who happens to own three very handsome Friesian stallions!
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You might be surprised how well she can carry your size. My friend has two arabs who are full brother and sister and are from Polish lines. They are tanks. The mare is about 14.2hh and slighter built than the gelding is. He's about 15hh and built like a QH.

Do you have pics of the mare? I bet you won't look as ridiculous on her as you think.
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post #5 of 10 Old 03-05-2016, 05:33 AM Thread Starter
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Do you have pics of the mare? I bet you won't look as ridiculous on her as you think.
I don't have any decent photos, but I've asked for a conformation shot. I can sort of get an idea from a photo of her with a rug on. To a conformation noob like me, her legs look pretty darn good. Her pasterns are short and seem to have a good angle and honestly, her legs as a whole look better than my Standys. It does look to me like her back might be a little long, and her neck looks to be quite low but that doesn't matter.

I think my favourite part is that she doesn't really look like an arab xD She reminds me a lot of a little Standy I tried out a while back. Actually, thinking of it, said little Standy was only about 14.2hh... I have photos of my mother on him and she looks good, but there are none of me because my parents suck at doing their job - this Standy was at the same place as the aforementioned Friesian stallions, and they were too busy taking photos of them to get photos of me on the horse we were there to try xD




Right now, I am like, 90% sure that I will be kicking myself for not having a look at her, even if it is a big drive. Truly, the only reason I'm hesitating is because it's a mare. My mother is (surprisingly) not keen, my father isn't sure, and my non-horsey BFF (who I like to call my 'voice of reason') says no. But I am hung up on her. Bloody chestnut arabian mares.
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I say go try her. If you don't you're going to be thinking about it forever. At least if you go, even if she isn't right, you'll know for sure!
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Mia was a mare, but never acted particularly "marish". Lilly was a mare, and a sweetheart. Both purebred Arabians.

OTOH, 250 lbs plus saddle is a lot of weight for a smaller horse to carry. Some can. Maybe most, if they can work up to it and are used more for walking than anything else. Trooper is a 14.3 hand, 875 lb 3/4 Arabian gelding, and he has handled 2-3 hour trail rides with 220-230 lb guys (plus 25 lbs of saddle) without any signs of discomfort.

However, Bandit is an 800 lb half Arabian, very slender in build although with a short back and good legs. He was used for racing in the Four Corners area, doing 8-10 mile legs in relay races. He was regularly ridden 20-30 miles by a guy who probably broke 250 with saddle...and it has taken most of a year to teach him not to brace his back completely rigid at a trot. He still does it at times, and almost always if he starts thinking "race". That may be related to how he was shod. We pulled his shoes when we got him, and found out his wear pattern on his left front leg was about 30 degrees off. Unshod, over a period of months, that has gone away. So his problems may have been caused more by bad shoeing than being overloaded.

I like Arabian mares. I spent much of the last 9 months thinking I'd sell Bandit and go buy a purebred Arabian mare, although I may be changing that view...Bandit is adapting, finally. I also think rider weight vs horse size is overrated. But while I reject a "20% rule", I do think a horse at 30% or higher is being asked to work pretty hard. For any kind of competitive riding, too hard.
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How do you cope with brain worms? Because if they are there, for me they grow and grow....

IF you are really concerned about your size and weight for her, then that never really goes away, you will always be second guessing, so be prepared to struggle or decide to diet. If you are not that worried, just looking for some second opinions then fine go see her.

Arab mares are great, I love them, and you really can't beat an Arab for endurance, and if she is of good build then she will carry you just fine.

As to Chestnut mares, well I bought one last year, it is never boring I can say that, would NOT have been my first choice, but she has something special, so we are still working at really getting to know each other.

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post #9 of 10 Old 03-06-2016, 06:11 PM
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I really don't think she will work out for you. I, however, have two empty stalls and the love of my life was a chestnut Arab mare so I think you'd be much better off sending her to me. :-D
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post #10 of 10 Old 03-06-2016, 06:24 PM
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I like Arabs, but here's a picture of me, all of 5 ft and 125 lbs sitting on our 14.2-14.3 Arab gelding. He has a slight build, but otherwise, is not a typical Arab with the dished face either. I do think that doubling that weight would be asking a lot of a horse that size, but it all depends on the horse. Have you asked the seller what kind of weight this mare has carried?
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