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post #1 of 9 Old 11-07-2013, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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How do you know when you should sell

525512_4356530405524_965492210_n.jpgIam torn right now, iam up and down and all over!! I have a 8 yr old gelding paint, he is a HUGE baby! not ever learned anything as a youngster just learning it now, he has his good days and bad days. he is super lazy while under saddle I can kick the crap outta him and he just stands there, like really??!? then some days he is all over the place head tossing, doesn't want to turn, he got a little buddy sour and when I took him and our mare out my husband was riding her. I tried doing circles with him and he started backing up, head tossing acting like he was going to rear up, he would have backed all the way home iam pretty sure. just acting like a fool. HE is hard headed!!! but he is so sweet! I had listed him online and a lady came and looked at him she got on him, and she was already aware of stubbornness, and he just stood there while she was kicking him, she was like I feel really bad about doing this, he didn't even blink was about asleep! but she took the reins and whipped his butt and off he went! I don't know if iam just not doing something right, I love his horse to death I feel like iam giving up but I don't want to get hurt or have him hurt. I just don't know how to handle it or what to do! he is a quarter horse/tb , his dad is a race horse mom is a barrel racing horse, I just have a feeling if I sell iam going to regret it, but if I don't I don't know what to do! I have to many emotions! any suggestions are welcome:)
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post #2 of 9 Old 11-07-2013, 10:35 PM
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Do you have a trainer you could take lessons with for a month or so before you decide?

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post #3 of 9 Old 11-07-2013, 10:42 PM Thread Starter
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I have talked to one, my only 2 real issues and they are not that big is he doesn't load it took us almost 3 hours to load him and he is flighty so I would have to ride him to the trainer which is about 3 miles away which he could do no problem. I just didn't know if 9 is a age were he is already made his mind up or is he still trainable?
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post #4 of 9 Old 11-07-2013, 11:01 PM
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It seems like he's not the right horse for you, would you consider a trade with anyone? For a horse who is a little more responsive?

Or get a trainer, because it could get dangerous if he develops bad habits such as bucking/rearing.

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post #5 of 9 Old 11-07-2013, 11:34 PM
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Groundwork, groundwork, groundwork! If you have a roundpen (not required, but certainly useful) put him on a lunge line and I would suggest a lunge whip as well. MAKE him move, show him who is boss. He is clearly not the type you can "baby" into doing anything. (you shouldn't with any horse, really) He will only get worse and will have little to no respect for you. I'm not kidding when I say show him who is boss. If he wants to walk at first, fine. But the moment YOU want him to speed up or do what you want, make it CLEAR and do NOT let him push you around. Groundwork is essential. My horse was the same way. Sweet, but pushy and VERY temperamental. I worked his butt off lunging and now have a horse that respects me, doesn't run me over when walking, WAY better behaved when being ridden. I think your boy needs a little motivation. I also think that you should try the lunging first and then lessons before you sell. Things like this can take some time. I wish you the best of luck, he is absolutely stunning!
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post #6 of 9 Old 11-07-2013, 11:45 PM
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This is an attractive horse that needs an experienced handler, beyond your skill level and he knows how to get around you. You could get some pro help if you really want to learn how to handle a stubborn horse and train him how to behave, or sell him and start with an older broke horse. Good luck either way.

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post #7 of 9 Old 11-07-2013, 11:45 PM
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Everyone else has given sound advice that a trainer would help but for your question, I don't believe any horse is too old to train.

I ended up with a 20+ year old OTTB that had been given to me as 'kidsafe'. I don't believe he was ever properly retrained after his racing career, he'd pull, bolt, rear, hop. He could not stand tied and in hand he wouldn't stand still even to be groomed or saddled, he'd spin around me in circles. It took 3 months of consistent work but by the time I was done he was acting like a normal, non crack-head horse. It took a lot of work in his particular case. When I was done with him he was at the point where he could be ridden bareback and bridleless pretty much everywhere and could pack around my non-horsey friend with no problem.

In short, 9 definitely isn't too old to be trained out of his bad habits, IMO.

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OK! i know he has gotten away with murder:) And I agree with he knows how to work me, I have 4 other horses, not cracked out by any means but he is the temperamental one, Iam going to do more groundwork maybe just start all over! i bought the Clinton Anderson set, I LOVE HIM. he would kick my butt if he seen this hot mess going on here! He is a gorgeous horse with a sweet personality just a cracked out head;) I think i will keep him for now! and see how it goes from here. its not a dire need to find him a home. THANKS
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post #9 of 9 Old 11-08-2013, 12:10 AM
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It's good that you're getting into it! Nine is certainly not too old - a horse is never too old to learn!

As others have said you need to do ground work. You need to make sure he always does what you ask when you ask. Letting him get away with something once is training him - everything you do is training.

However, if you do feel unsafe don't push it. A horse's training isn't worth getting yourself hurt over.

The time to sell is when you don't want to do it anymore, whether you're scared, sick of it, whatever. There is no special, feeling, or sign or point, it's just when you think that it's not what you want anymore.
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