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post #11 of 28 Old 10-26-2010, 03:11 PM
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We have about 15 acres of pasture that we share with my in law. Jacks owner doesnt hand feed either one..he said he thinks its the same one I do. Just so happens the pasture line goes up to where my SIL stays at..so shes got easy access without being seen since none of us can see each others houses.
to put it nicely, she tries to test everybodys patience....shes fried her brain over the past 20 years if ya follow me.
I will catch her doing it...just a matter of when, not if.
I tell Dozer No when he's nipped at me...I could care less if he takes her fingers off...itll be as a result of her own stupidity.
So the property is jointly owned by the family? Is the SIL the daughter of your in-laws, or is she a BIL's wife? I'd think if she were the in-law's daughter, they could tell her to mind her manners and leave the equids alone.

Regardless, horses are considered an attractive nuisance and if she gets injured by one of them, even due to her own lack of good sense, she could very well hit you up for restitution for pain, suffering, and medical bills. Fair? Nope. Legal? Yep.

I really don't see how you can make someone, especially a relative who is part of the family homestead, stop hand feeding your animals.

I feel for you, I really do. But the problem is that you're betwixt a rock and a hard place, and you'll be damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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Perhaps a better question would be "How can I keep my horse from biting even if he is handfed?". My horses don't bite me but it's not because I don't handfeed them. They don't bite me because I pay attention and recognize the signals and stop them before the thought to bite even fully forms in thier mind. They are not allowed to touch me with unless invited to do so.

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You have a far better chance teaching your horse not to bite than you do getting your SIL to not feed your horse.
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4I would post signs, that way if she does get bitten and tries to take it to law then you have some sort of defense. May not be much but it's better than nothing. And post the signs on her side of the fence. Maybe every 10 fence posts or so that way where ever she is on her property she can see the signs.

After that if she gets bitten it's her own fault.

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post #15 of 28 Old 10-26-2010, 03:43 PM
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After that if she gets bitten it's her own fault.
SR is correct though - she MAY sue the owner of the horse and actually win something would happen to her. It sounds very ridiculous, but it's a sad reality.



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Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't it kinda be like a NO TRESPASSING sign. You can see it. It is there. You know you are not supossed to do it, yet if you do it anyway and end up hurt, it is your fault. There was something there that warned you not to do it and you did it anyways.


Thats just what I figured. I'm not good with all the law crap.

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If you live in a state with an Equine Limited Liability Law (I believe all but four states have this, I know NY does not) you have to post a sign that says exactly what the law states it has to say. You have to post the signs where the law states you have to post them.

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If you live in a state with an Equine Limited Liability Law (I believe all but four states have this, I know NY does not) you have to post a sign that says exactly what the law states it has to say. You have to post the signs where the law states you have to post them.

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MD doesn't have either looks like. Dumb question, but what does it mean not to have it?



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It means you are up a creek with out a paddle and you better have good liability insurance coverage. It means any person who walks onto your property and gets injured by your horse can win a settlement because our (totally ridiculous) states do not see that a person participating in a horse activity should have to take on any responsibility for anything that might happen to them during that activity.

The limited liability law basically allows for the fact that dealing with horses is a known dangerous activity and that there ares some well understood risks associated with it. In, other words, people are some what responsible for their own decisions.

In the states with out them they hold the horse owner completely and solely responsible.


Edit to add - I am not a lawyer, I do not play one on TV and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so this does not constitute any form of legal advice, it is just my understand of the law.
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The problem though, even with the limited liability laws, is that someone could come into my pastures and if one of my horses hurt them, they could still sue me for damages and quite possibly win.

The equine liability statutes are best upheld in court when you have someone sign a waiver stating they understand the liabilities of equine related activities, and hold harmless the owner/trainer/BO for any and all injuries sustained during the activities.

For someone like a family member or Asshat Joe Blow off the streets, the limited liability laws may be useless when using them as a defense in court.

The best way to help your case is to post the liability laws as well as 'no trespassing' signs every so many feet on your fence line and around the barn.

Do NOT post 'horses may bite' signs, because then you're admitting you have dangerous animals, which will actually hurt your case rather than help it.
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