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post #21 of 30 Old 10-24-2013, 12:27 AM
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Wonderful! Like others have said, a horse is worth as much as you think it's worth. I hope the mare passes the vet with flying colors, and enjoy her!!
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post #22 of 30 Old 11-04-2013, 10:07 PM Thread Starter
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Had the vet check done and am now just waiting to get a copy of it from the vet. Am a little unsure how I will proceed from here but want to read the full report before I make a decision.
I had the basic check done so was just a general check over, teeth, eyes, heart etc and also a flexion test at walk and trot. Nothing major came up but the vet did notice her movement in her back end was slightly off. It did improve a bit once we moved to a completely flat area but the vet could obviously not tell me what the exact issue was without going into further testing. She did say it didnt appear to be an arthritic problem as it didnt worsen with the flexion test.
The owner had agreed to accept $5000 for her but I was only really willing to pay that if nothing came up. It may be something minor and the vet did say it could just be general wear and tear as she is a 15 year old horse. The vet said she wouldn't recommend her for someone doing heavy work but should be fine for what I want.
I do like her and she is a lovely little mare but now don't know where to go from here. I still feel that even $5000 is quite a lot to be paying so wonder if I should offer less or just tell the owner I am not going to buy her. Any ideas on what someone else would do?
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post #23 of 30 Old 11-04-2013, 10:26 PM
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I would just decide whether or not you want the horse. If you offer anything significantly less than the accepted offer then the seller will most likely (and understandably) back out. If you only want a few hundred dollars less then in the grand scheme of a horse's life it's not worth arguing if you like the horse IMO. I would just decide whether or not you want to deal with this mare's potential issues, and either go with the current offer or decline.

You could talk about lowering the price, but I'd expect the owner to decline. The odds of finding an older horse with zero issues are pretty slim, but I don't know enough enough from him saying that her back end was "off" to say how much it would affect you.
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post #24 of 30 Old 11-06-2013, 11:37 PM Thread Starter
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I would just decide whether or not you want the horse. If you offer anything significantly less than the accepted offer then the seller will most likely (and understandably) back out. If you only want a few hundred dollars less then in the grand scheme of a horse's life it's not worth arguing if you like the horse IMO. I would just decide whether or not you want to deal with this mare's potential issues, and either go with the current offer or decline.

You could talk about lowering the price, but I'd expect the owner to decline. The odds of finding an older horse with zero issues are pretty slim, but I don't know enough enough from him saying that her back end was "off" to say how much it would affect you.
Thanks Duck Dodgers, I finally got the copy of the vet report today after they had sent it to the wrong email address 2 days ago

Here are the points made by the vet:

-Altered movement in hindlegs on initial trot up (slight upward slop). Left hind reduced stride in trot, persisted when examined on flat lunge. No change with flexion. unknown cause and no palpable leg abnormalities.

-Intermittent left fore lameness with head nod on left rein lunge and on slight downward trot.

-Facial skin lesions with sarcoid characteristics, also found on body. Not currently irritated, not in tack areas. reported as being present for long term.

-Poor neck musculature and dipped crest.

Adding a few other things that I have further learnt from the owner - she suggested I lunge her before riding in spring time (not so keen on this) and also that the last owner said she had issues with pulling back while tied but she cant comment on this herself as she has always handled the horse in a stall.

I feel really torn but I think my head is telling me to pass on this one. I am going to ring the owner tonight, I don't think I will offer less money because while I might be prepared to accept and work on these issues for say $3000 like you said - I doubt she would accept this.
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post #25 of 30 Old 11-07-2013, 01:13 AM
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I would tell the owner that you are going to pass on the horse because, due to the vet's findings, you cannot justify spending the $5000 on a horse with these issues. If she brings up the possibility of lowering the price then see what you can work out, but if not then say thank you for your time and move on. If you really wanted THIS horse then it would be pretty clear, but it's understandably apparent that you don't. Instead you should tell the owner you decision so that the two of you can start looking for other arrangements.
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post #26 of 30 Old 11-07-2013, 04:12 AM Thread Starter
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I rang the owner and told her pretty much exactly what you said and we ended up on the phone for almost 2 hours! I read out the vet report to her and told her that although I really like the horse I am hesitant without knowing the reason for the slight lameness. She then offered to take off the $800 for the gear which would bring the horses cost down to $4200.
She wants to get a chiro out to see if it may be a muscle issue as she has been out of work all winter and has been ridden a fair bit over the last few weeks with people trying her out - she is pretty unfit right now. She would then like for me to come back and see her again and bring my trimmer who is very experienced and would be able to give me her opinion on the horses movement.
I have sent her a copy of the vet report so we will go from here and see what happens. I am quite happy to investigate things further as I would hate to pass up a good horse if it turns out that the lameness can be pinpointed to something minor.
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post #27 of 30 Old 11-07-2013, 06:29 AM
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I bought my connemara for 1600 aged 10 yrs, by the time he died aged 20 he was worth 4000. He failed flexion test but never had a problem with his joints/ soundness.

I also bought a 10 yr old arab that passed a vetting with flying colours, within 6 months he was so crippled he had to be retired.

As you can probably guess I dont put much store by vettings.

RIDE your horse FORWARDS and keep him STRAIGHT

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post #28 of 30 Old 11-07-2013, 07:28 AM
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If you do get her, please post some photos!!
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post #29 of 30 Old 11-07-2013, 12:24 PM
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It's great that the seller is willing to work with you. Hopefully it'll be a workable issue!
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post #30 of 30 Old 11-07-2013, 12:48 PM
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Oh yes definitely pictures will be required!
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