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post #11 of 17 Old 12-05-2009, 09:44 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the input guys! Scoutrider-great response! It really helped a lot!
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post #12 of 17 Old 12-05-2009, 09:46 AM
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Horses are like kids. They will always regularly test you even if you correct them and there will be days when they are worst than others. They are mammals like we are. Different things will affect them on that day that will change their behavior.

What you did was a correct way to respond but I would have probably also smacked him in the chest with my hand and give him another firm no. Stopping him and back him up and start over and keep repeating that until you finish tacking him up.

My rule of thumb when horses are being silly like that is that, if they have the energy to misbehave, then they will have the energy to go on the lunge line and do some work on the lunge line. It's my non-aggressive way of making them realize that if they choose to misbehave, then it's actually going to be a lot more work than if they just listen. Horses spend 24 hours in a day out to pasture so I think they can devote me 1 hour out of their day to work.

Also make sure that his behavior is not related to pain or fear from something that is happening at that moment or from a past experience.
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post #13 of 17 Old 12-05-2009, 09:50 AM
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Ok thanks! I think it might have been a combination of me and him, I just need to know what to do with him when he is going bonkers in the cross ties and places like that lol!

Sophie, sorry if I made it confusing, but I meant this as on the ground not riding!
You can use backing on the ground as well as in the saddle. It might be good for you since it is a less aggressive mode of discipline, closer to your comfort zone.

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post #14 of 17 Old 12-05-2009, 11:10 AM
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Horses are like kids. They will always regularly test you even if you correct them and there will be days when they are worst than others. They are mammals like we are. Different things will affect them on that day that will change their behavior. . . .

My rule of thumb when horses are being silly like that is that, if they have the energy to misbehave, then they will have the energy to go on the lunge line and do some work on the lunge line. It's my non-aggressive way of making them realize that if they choose to misbehave, then it's actually going to be a lot more work than if they just listen. Horses spend 24 hours in a day out to pasture so I think they can devote me 1 hour out of their day to work.
I agree 150%. My mom frequently comments that a lot of living with horses is like dealing with 1,000 pound toddlers. The "put 'em to work" theory works like a charm for my boys when they get fizzy.

A stubborn horse walks behind you, an impatient one in front of you, but a noble companion walks beside you ~ Unknown
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post #15 of 17 Old 12-05-2009, 05:19 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys! I will try all of your suggestions, and like I said, it only happens on occasion so I'm not too concerned
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post #16 of 17 Old 12-07-2009, 03:07 PM
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Backing can work, but probably won't if he's picking up the nervous energy from you.

Since you are having problems tacking up, is it possible to put him in a fairly constrained space to tack up (cross ties, etc) where he can't manage the negative behavoirs (walking circles around you and trying to eat can both be stopped if there is no possible way for him to do it).

I've found one way to prevent negative behaviors when you are not comfortable handling the behaviors is to avoid the situations that cause the behaviors until they are no longer habit.
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post #17 of 17 Old 12-08-2009, 06:49 PM Thread Starter
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Simplysouthern-he usually is in a confined area (crossties) but right now we have him in the pessoa surcingle lunging system, so I have to carry my saddle down to the ring for after lunging
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