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post #1 of 29 Old 03-19-2013, 07:09 PM Thread Starter
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I absolutely cannot stand when...

I cannot stand it when people buy yearlings for their 5 year old and say "they can grow up together and teach each other!"

NO, no they cannot grow up together! They can't teach each other; you can't teach what you don't know! Neither can teach one another because they know nothing and therefore have nothing to teach!

Makes me so angry

So, what can't you stand in the horse community?
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post #2 of 29 Old 03-19-2013, 07:29 PM
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/\/\/\/\ You are so right! I have been annoyed about that for years! They can't grow up together, they will both just get frustrated and annoyed with each other. And both of them will remember that experience

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I agree 100% with you here..

I hate it that just because youre new to a barn, or community, that the people there automatically assume you know nothing about horses just because they dont know you; but in reality, you know more than the person undermining you.. instead of having a conversation with you, they disagree with every word you say.. Snobby horse women **** me off!!
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I hate it that just because youre new to a barn, or community, that the people there automatically assume you know nothing about horses just because they dont know you; but in reality, you know more than the person undermining you.. instead of having a conversation with you, they disagree with every word you say.. Snobby horse women **** me off!! [/QUOTE]
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I cannot stand it when people buy yearlings for their 5 year old and say "they can grow up together and teach each other!"

NO, no they cannot grow up together! They can't teach each other; you can't teach what you don't know! Neither can teach one another because they know nothing and therefore have nothing to teach!

Makes me so angry
That's a rather narrow minded point of view. What makes you so angry about what other people choose to do?

You evidently have totally ignored the parent factor for some strange reason. Both my sons had horses they grew up with, and I helped them raise and train them, imparting much of my experience and expertise to them. Neither I nor they would trade the experience for anything in the world - it taught them responsibility and discipline, aside from teaching them how to raise and train horses.

I mean after all, it's not like a 10 year old kid is living alone and gets a colt or filly to raise all by themselves...
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That's a rather narrow minded point of view. What makes you so angry about what other people choose to do?

You evidently have totally ignored the parent factor for some strange reason. Both my sons had horses they grew up with, and I helped them raise and train them, imparting much of my experience and expertise to them. Neither I nor they would trade the experience for anything in the world - it taught them responsibility and discipline, aside from teaching them how to raise and train horses.

I mean after all, it's not like a 10 year old kid is living alone and gets a colt or filly to raise all by themselves...
I don't mean if the parent is helping. What I mean is that when parents buy a yearling as a first 'pony' for their kids when the family knows nothing about horses. I do think it is a good idea to give younger kids the experience like you did. What makes me angry is when uneducated parents who don't know much about horses buy a yearling for their kids' first pony, when nobody in the situation knows anything about raising or training horses.
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I don't mean if the parent is helping. What I mean is that when parents buy a yearling as a first 'pony' for their kids when the family knows nothing about horses. I do think it is a good idea to give younger kids the experience like you did. What makes me angry is when uneducated parents who don't know much about horses buy a yearling for their kids' first pony, when nobody in the situation knows anything about raising or training horses.
I would agree with you in that scenario, although if they are uneducated about horses, how would they know? I honestly sort of look at that as the fault of the seller of the horse - not the parents, because they don't know any better. I bred and sold a lot of horses in my time, but would never sell a green horse to a family that knew nothing about horses - not even to adults. But we all know some people will sell a horse to anyone just for the money - even if they know the horse isn't right for them...
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I got my first horse when I was ten, and said pony was three years old and "broke". Now'a'days I would know (in the majority of cases) that no three year old is broke enough for a ten year old to be riding without assistance unless you mean all four legs are broke and it can't do squat. My parents knew very little about horses, and I had been taking lessons for a few years and seeing as we had the land I found myself on the back of a brand new pony! Then a few moments later I was in a pile on the ground. Some situations it works out, but certainly not mine. If this horse was a dead head it might have been okay, but this horse is the SMARTEST s-o-b you'll ever meet and knew the bounds of the authority of a little girl. Fast forward some years, and that same pony now shares his pasture with four others and I still ride him. It took years to get back to where I could ride him without fault from either one of us, be it fear or pain, but it took a lot of commitment. A lot of people are surprised even after that I'm still kickin, but I'm sure a lot of kids would have let that fear live in the back of their minds for the rest of their lives. I try not to let it get to me, but still when I think of riding that horse I get really nervous, but the second my butt touches the saddle, even if he is having a bad day, all of the nervous usually go away because I get to be there with him.

Sorry for the novel, but just my experience with parents who let their kids grow up with a young horse. I think getting my butt whopped by a horse in the long run made me a better person, but that is just because I never got to experience the clueless, only riding push-button horses phase and skipped right to a challenging, problem-horse.

I pretty much can't stand most of what people do, but I try and keep it to myself. When stubborn people start talking about all their horse knowledge I listen for as long as I can manage before I politely leave. I figure the ones willing to change will see that I'm doing something right and ask about it.
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I was 11... Three year old practically wild, Belgian/QH mare, around 16 HH, and bred. I 'broke' her to ride, bareback at first, and then with a saddle. I got thrown so many times, I don't even dare try and remember how many.
I was lucky that I never cracked my head open or broke a limb while working with/riding her. Here is what I learned, if she bucks you off, you're going to have to get back on sometime. Putting it off for a day (or a week) isn't going to help your fears go away.
Would I do this to my kids. NO! But am I thankful for I learned. Mainly just learning to have the guts to get back on even when you are scared to death.

I figure if a girl wants to be a LEGEND, she should just go ahead and be one. ~Calamity Jane
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post #10 of 29 Old 03-19-2013, 09:36 PM Thread Starter
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The above stories: I do think that those horses/ponies did teach good things, but when a little kid, like 8 years old, is given a yearling as a first 'pony' than things become a huge issue (not saying your situations weren't dangerous, but you were of a little older age).
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