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post #21 of 31 Old 12-19-2010, 11:33 AM
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Maybe tryt o put her on B1, which is a calming supplement, until she calms down and leaarns to respect you.
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post #22 of 31 Old 12-20-2010, 02:15 PM
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And are you certain she's not in pain again? From what I've heard from my vet, the op for Kissing Spine has only a very minimal success rate and full recovery isn't guaranteed. You might want to have your vet look at her again.

I had a horse who was very similar to this in the stable. He was extremely dominant and territorial about his box. Even outside, only his groom could handle him with any kind of success. He was so bad, I wouldn't even saddle him myself. (Though after a couple years, I kind of got over it and would tack him up myself.) But I'll never forget one incident that happened. It was after dinner time one winter night and he'd finished his feed (he got fed first, because he was such a savage if you tried to feed him later), so I went in to put his rug on, and I was walking behind him. I put my hand on his rump to let him know I was there, and he kind of stamped his back leg. So I told him 'No' in a firm, but not raised, voice. Well! All of a sudden he just spun round and pinned me in the corner of the box, furthest from the door and started chopping at me with his front hooves, ears pinned flat back. It was scary! I never went to put his blanket on again after that.

Many years later, after we'd had him put to sleep - which was just the saddest day of my life - I found out some interesting facts about him. Turns out, he was only gelded as a 7 year old, also, his dam's line had a history of having a nasty streak. And he'd been abused quite badly while he was in racing.

The strangest thing was, though, he was an absolute dream to ride. He taught me so much and you could put the most novice, nervous rider on his back and he'd never put a foot out of place. Gosh I loved that horse, even though he was a complete nightmare to handle on the ground. (Though I think he kind of liked his groom. Just not anyone else).

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post #23 of 31 Old 12-20-2010, 02:45 PM
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How much turnout time does this horse get?

When I worked at the TB farm, I learned that sometimes the best thing you could do for a horse that acts out is to keep them outside 24/7. Some horses have too much energy than they know what to do with. It's the same with kids--if they don't have anywhere to put their energy, they will develop bad habits.

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post #24 of 31 Old 12-20-2010, 03:12 PM
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I heard that a horse that is that bad could have a brain tumor.

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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post #25 of 31 Old 12-20-2010, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald View Post
I heard that a horse that is that bad could have a brain tumor.
Actually that's true. Friend of mine had a mule, which suddenly started to explode for no reason (actually sending my friend to ER couple times). One day he just dropped dead and the autopsy (spell?) showed the poor creature did have a tumor in head.

Not saying it's a case here, but again, I truly think it worth the look of the trainer with lots of experience. At least the trainer probably can tell if the behavior looks too abnormal.

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post #26 of 31 Old 12-20-2010, 10:23 PM
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Hm....not always, especially if the mare's always had a tendency toward this kind of behaviour.
But yeah, I agree that it could be tumor related. The horrible part is, there's not really any cure for them (that I know of) :(

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post #27 of 31 Old 12-20-2010, 11:17 PM
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I havent' finished reading this thread yet, but I thought of this;

this horse seems like the kind that might benefit from being laid down; tapped.
You have heard of this? Look at some stuff posted by Endospink on the internet, and there are others who do tapping. It might make a difference. Sounds like she is on her way to a deadend.
Consider having her tapped by a professional
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post #28 of 31 Old 12-20-2010, 11:20 PM
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this is the link to Endospinks' website with FAQ regarding the tap

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post #29 of 31 Old 12-20-2010, 11:50 PM
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We had two old horses at the barn I used to work at, (horses were there a few years apart), and they both at one point started becoming incredibly dangerous, lashing out, taking off under saddle, the one I never met actually broke my trainers back by taking off, and throwing her into a rock. She was around 60 at the time of accident, so too old to getting hurt like that. His right hind leg I believe would also unexplainably swell up, always in sync with when he would have his worst episodes. And the horse I actually met didn't become quite as aggressive as the other guy, but did get pretty bad, and again his right hind leg would swell up. Well when the first horse was put down, it was discovered that he had a brain tumor, and the trainer believes that the current horse displaying the same symptoms also has a tumor, but won't put him down until he actually does become too dangerous for her to handle, since she's the only one who does anything with him. She feeds all the horses, she blankets, turns out, rides ect. I don't know if he's had to be put down yet, haven't talked to the trainer in a while, but I know with those two there was definitely a change in attitude, not just a worsening of already bad behavior. To me it sounds like the op's horse already had some bad behavior, and has learned that it gets results, so she's gotten worse and worse, and the cycle needs to be broken somehow, but with a person who KNOWS what they are doing, and can do it in the safest manner possible. I would be very cautious about her being in a stall, because as others have posted, its not unheard of for horses to pin someone in a corner, and I would hate for that to happen to you.
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post #30 of 31 Old 12-21-2010, 12:02 AM
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I had a horse that would bite and cow kick. Finally I kicked the horse back. No more kicking, ground manners work too. The horse bite, finally (yeah I'm crazy..) I bite it back. And smacked it, no more biting.
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