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post #71 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 10:44 AM
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Everything I originally wrote was already suggested and shot down so I deleted my post.

Here are your options:

1. Ask for a different horse
2. Ride at a different time
3. Stop riding
4. Keep riding and make him behave instead of just expecting him to and hoping it will happen
5. Keep riding and letting him do his thing until you are turned off of riding

No matter what, those are your only options. Lets say 2, 3 and 5 are out. Leaves you with 1 and 4.

I don't know the barn to know if 1 is an option which leaves us with 4.

What is the horse doing? What riding experience do you have? What discipline/style are you taking lessons in? Maybe we can help you get more results from the beastie. I know how much riding a bratty horse sucks but it really will make you a better rider.

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post #72 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Hazels View Post
There's a difference between taking and wanting. Through my horse adventure, we've had each other's backs. Since the time when she went home crying to when I felt worthless because I wasn't as good as the rest of the class. I would never just steal her horse. I want it, but friends don't steal or take. I'm pretty sure I said that in the first place, but everyone just took it wrong I guess.

He owns five dead broke horses: Blazer, Kelly, Fooler, Jelly and Gray Guy. Jelly is very young and unpredictable, so all of us refuse to ride her. Blazer is my mom's horse.

My mother offered Blazer up, but we didn't want to take him. He's a real good horse, but it's not fair for her. She deserves to ride just as much as us. We talked to her about it, but she believes Kelly is an easy horse. Just stubborn. I think we all agree on that, too. A little seven year old rides the heck out of her without any difficulties. I think it just depends who's on her.

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These horses are clearly not as broke as your instructor believes them to be.
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post #73 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 11:18 AM
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Also, just because YOU think your instructor knows what he's doing doesn't mean he does. I see red flags all over this training program.
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post #74 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hazels View Post
We'll figure it out. We have three weeks until the next lesson, we've got plenty of time to decide.

So. No hard feelings? {<--- @Everyone}

Evil-That would be a bit difficult. Having to get on and off a horse every hour and a half, I mean. We could do it, it just might be a bit time consuming.
So your lessons are 3 hours long? Wow, I see no problem at all with dismounting, switching, and mounting again. I have done it many times in classes of 15 plus students in just 45 minute classes. It only takes a minute. I think that's a great idea evil.
No, no hard feelings at all, not from my end anyway. :)
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post #75 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LeahKathleen View Post
These horses are clearly not as broke as your instructor believes them to be.
Agreed Leah. To the OP, keep in mind, all students think their instructors know everything and are great at what they do. At first. I am still finding things that some of my first instructors taught wrong, and I thought they knew everything there was to know back then. I don't know anything about your instructor other than what you have told me, and I too see many red flags.

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post #76 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 12:49 PM
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OP please don't take offense to this, I really am just trying to help, but I really don't think that this barn is the best place for you, your friend, or your mother. Your riding instructor may know what he is doing as in he is an excellent rider and knows his way around horses but from what I have read (again not trying to bash him you have just given us very little information on him other than not to bash him) he doesn't know how to teach it to others. I help give lessons to beginners and work as a riding instructor at a summer camp. At every lesson I have ever taught the horse is assigned to the rider. It isn't because I don't think that the rider is unable to pick a horse they "click" with, it is because the horse they "click" with may not be the appropriate horse for them. Horses each have their own personalities and quirks and as an instructor it is important to know each and every one of those quirks and match them to a rider that can

A.) Not be scared by said quirk and gain confidence
B.) Learn from said quirk and become a better rider because of it

It concearns me that your instructor lets you pick your own horses, because I know if I let my beginners pick their own horses they would all end up on horses that are too challenging for them or too easy for them. Sure they might "click" personality-wise, but they probably won't match up skill wise.

Now I am not trying to say your instructor is a bad guy maybe he just didn't evaluate everyone's ability correctly. I will admit that I have done that before and have had to talk with my students about how they feel about their riding abilities and who they feel they would be more comfortable on. Have you talked to your instructor about your insecurities? When it comes to being insecure or nervous or whatever you are feeling during a lesson you should always be able to go to your instructor, that is what they are there for Try talking to him with your friend about the horses that you guys ride, maybe he will have a different solution or tell you why you should stick with your original horses, or maybe he will tell you it is a good idea to switch, maybe he will even put you on different horses completely! Whatever he choses you should feel comforted and better about yourselves, your riding, and the progress you will make. If he doesn't listen (which I am not saying he won't) I think it is time to find another place to take lessons.

Good luck with whatever you choose and let me know if I was helpful at all! And again please don't feel attacked by my post, I am jst trying to help you with your situation from what I have read
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post #77 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 12:50 PM
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I shall just repeat others; this is an instructor issue.

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post #78 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 12:55 PM
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I am confused......

How is switching horses time consuming!? The last lesson I had, the trainer was mounted as well as myself (free lesson, paid ones she's not) and the two of us got on and off our respective mounts probably half a dozen times to check on a sleeping kid, get water, chase down an escaped pony.... Other than escaped pony, none of them took more than 2 minutes max, even when we switched mounts which required adjusting the stirrups as she's tall and I... am not. That even included hauling the horses over to the mounting block!

You don't WANT help, you want to stand around going Poor pitiful widdle me... I'm not getting what I want so all of you tell me it's okay to take the horse I want and tell my friend it's just too bad, so sad for her...
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post #79 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 01:05 PM
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Hey OP. I think you've gotten a lot of good ideas so far on here and I can see that you're trying to take them in and relate them to your situation. I have a suggestion, why not start a thread in the appropriate Horse Riding section for your discipline, and describe the issues you are having with Kelly? There are some fantastic riders and trainers on here who might be able to give you some tips on how to ride Kelly.

I really do agree with the others that say, focus on riding Kelly and overcoming the issues you are encountering with her. I think if you take it one step at a time, you will be amazed at what you can do and how far you will come in your horsemanship.

So try starting that new thread and think through what is going on, then describe it in as much detail as you can. Then please be open to all the help you will get on here. It really is a very helpful and informative place. I've learned tons since joining!

Good luck to you!

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post #80 of 143 Old 01-31-2013, 03:16 PM
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To be honest, I think you have to make a decision between furthering your riding and spending social time with your friend at the lesson. You've made it clear there's only one (two counting your mother's) horse you are content with riding, and two people that want that horse. You either have to suck it up and ride the difficult pony for the sake of hanging out with your friend during the lesson, or ride the quiet pony in a lesson without your friend.

It sounds like you two are good friends. I wouldn't want to destroy that friendship over this.
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