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post #21 of 63 Old 05-23-2010, 08:20 PM
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WOW that's creepy! Nice move holding him at gunpoint! He'd be full of holes if it was me...

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post #22 of 63 Old 05-23-2010, 08:41 PM
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I don't think I could shoot anyone, not even that sleezbag. =/
Don't EVER point a gun at anyone again if you aren't prepared to kill them. Incidently, if you do shoot someone or hold someone at gunpoint again don't go on an internet forum and talk about it. Everything said here is evidence and could be used against you.

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post #23 of 63 Old 05-23-2010, 10:13 PM
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What exactly are you charging the guy with?
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post #24 of 63 Old 05-29-2010, 03:15 AM
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the guy sound like a nutter!
you did a very brave thing sorrelhorse :)
Jester prpbs freaked out at first just 'cause that man was staring at him, horses can sense bad people well.
I wish Jester's injuries better and hope that guy get charged and his horses are taken off him!

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post #25 of 63 Old 05-29-2010, 03:29 AM
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Don't EVER point a gun at anyone again if you aren't prepared to kill them. Incidently, if you do shoot someone or hold someone at gunpoint again don't go on an internet forum and talk about it. Everything said here is evidence and could be used against you.
Amen! This is how people get hurt. I grew up in one heck of a rough neighborhood and you did not pack anything you did not intend on using. I can not tell you the amount of people I know who have been stabbed with their own knives. For your own safety do not involve weapons. This sadly could've ended much worse if either of you ended up shot.

That being said I have witnessed some weird things. A man beating the snot out of a poor yearling who was tied still and hobbled. It's hard not to react and save the horse but it's best to call the authorities and get it dealt with properly from the get go.
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post #26 of 63 Old 05-29-2010, 04:20 AM
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Don't EVER point a gun at anyone again if you aren't prepared to kill them. Incidently, if you do shoot someone or hold someone at gunpoint again don't go on an internet forum and talk about it. Everything said here is evidence and could be used against you.

Very, very well said Kevin. The number one rule of gun safety is never point a gun at anything you don't intend to kill. That means that you don't point guns at people to scare them or hold them for the cops. In fact, if you were holding an unarmed man at gun point when the cops got there, then it should have been you that was arrested. The whole thing sounds a bit fishy to me. What did they charge the guy with? In the eyes of the law, horses are just property.
IF this story is true (and I must admit I'm having doubts), then what you did is a very foolish thing. What would you have done had he attempted to take the gun away from you? There are a lot of people in these kinds of situations that are killed by their own gun. Lets just say for arguments sake that it goes the other way. You pull the trigger and kill him because he is trying to take your gun. You would then be facing charges of murder, not to mention the fact that you have to live with having killed a fellow human being over a horse. Your defense is well I was trying to hold him until the cops got here because he was abusing my horse and when he tried to take the gun away I killed him. Either way your life is over. Let me tell ya something else you may not know, if you force a person to move at gunpoint, even a few feet, it is kidnapping (the reason I know is because this happened to a friend of mine).
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post #27 of 63 Old 05-29-2010, 06:15 AM
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It does slightly sound a tad bit out there......
I am dying to know what the OP is charging him for as i never heard anything like this.
Also did i read that the BO is taking the mans horses?

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post #28 of 63 Old 05-29-2010, 08:08 AM
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Very, very well said Kevin. The number one rule of gun safety is never point a gun at anything you don't intend to kill. That means that you don't point guns at people to scare them or hold them for the cops. In fact, if you were holding an unarmed man at gun point when the cops got there, then it should have been you that was arrested. The whole thing sounds a bit fishy to me. What did they charge the guy with? In the eyes of the law, horses are just property.
IF this story is true (and I must admit I'm having doubts), then what you did is a very foolish thing. What would you have done had he attempted to take the gun away from you? There are a lot of people in these kinds of situations that are killed by their own gun. Lets just say for arguments sake that it goes the other way. You pull the trigger and kill him because he is trying to take your gun. You would then be facing charges of murder, not to mention the fact that you have to live with having killed a fellow human being over a horse. Your defense is well I was trying to hold him until the cops got here because he was abusing my horse and when he tried to take the gun away I killed him. Either way your life is over. Let me tell ya something else you may not know, if you force a person to move at gunpoint, even a few feet, it is kidnapping (the reason I know is because this happened to a friend of mine).
Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to kill!!!!!!
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At least in my state she was probably within her rights holding him at gunpoint if she so chose however it was a stupid choice. As was mentioned above why kill someone over a horse? I would deffinately call the authorities and make sure that the man saw me call them but unless there was more threat to me I would not bring a gun into it. I have a concealed carry permit and I carry often so I have given some thought to what I would do in certain situations and while my response may vary if I draw my weapon I will be fully prepared to end someones life with it. If I am not prepared to do that I will leave it holstered and concealed. I'm not saying that if I draw my pistol someone is getting shot but I am prepared to do that if needed. It is extremely foolhardy to point a gun at someone with the idea that you could never pull the trigger.

I don't really believe any of this happened anyway but it makes for an interesting discussion.

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post #29 of 63 Old 05-30-2010, 03:27 AM
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At least in my state she was probably within her rights holding him at gunpoint if she so chose however it was a stupid choice. As was mentioned above why kill someone over a horse? I would deffinately call the authorities and make sure that the man saw me call them but unless there was more threat to me I would not bring a gun into it. I have a concealed carry permit and I carry often so I have given some thought to what I would do in certain situations and while my response may vary if I draw my weapon I will be fully prepared to end someones life with it. If I am not prepared to do that I will leave it holstered and concealed. I'm not saying that if I draw my pistol someone is getting shot but I am prepared to do that if needed. It is extremely foolhardy to point a gun at someone with the idea that you could never pull the trigger.
I don't really believe any of this happened anyway but it makes for an interesting discussion.

Once again, you have hit the nail on the head. So many people are killed with their own guns because they pull a gun on someone to scare or intimidate them....with zero intentions of pulling the trigger. I do think their are situations that warrant pulling a gun on someone, but you better darn sure be willing to pull the trigger. If not, then you'd be a heck of a lot better off leaving the guns out of it.
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post #30 of 63 Old 05-30-2010, 03:43 AM
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As much as that guy is a horrible person for what he did to Jester, I don't think holding him at gun point was a great idea. Like the posters above have said, what would you have done if it accidentally fired and killed him?

All that being said, I hope your horses are okay!

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