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post #11 of 21 Old 04-30-2013, 11:31 AM
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I think the OP's point (or part of it) is no one gave a hoot until the horse was in the kill pen. Then all of a sudden folks were ".. Ohhh.. we have to SAVE the precious little horsey from being killed!!.." even though (according to information given) the previous owner appears to have used that as a last resort. Then, that same horse appears to be a bit much for them, and the folks now, essentially, "want their money back" and pawn it off on someone else to "rescue".

I once had a dozen or so horses dropped off at my place- literally, dropped off. They showed up one day,and I coudn't get rid of them. They were wild, unhandeled, bad mannered and dangerous. According to the sherriff, unless they looked malnourished or neglected, they wouldn't take them- and if if they did I could get charged, since they were now my property. (Uh.... huh?)

(Kill pens and such weren't open, but they were good candidates, most of them anyway).

The rescues were full, I was on my own. I tried giving them away, with full disclosure. The only thing I did was get the stallions gelded, and wormed. I couldn't afford to get all their feet done, all their dental, etc- wasn't going to happen. Luckily, they maintained weight on pasture alone.

Oddly enough, no one took them. (Imagine that).

So, I tried a different approach- I sold them. 200$ a piece. Miraculously, people wanted them. SAME horses, in the SAME shape, SAME disclosure. Apparently, sticking a price on them makes them worth it (I still don't understand). Took me 3 years to find these guys places to live. (I wouldn't give them to anyone I didn't think could handle them, otherwise the horse was no better off. I had, at least, by that point got them to where they weren't completely dangerous)

You put them in a kill pen, and everyone wants to save them, regardless of trying to help them before that point.

People psychology baffles me.
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post #12 of 21 Old 04-30-2013, 11:38 AM
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(... I am still livid at local laws in regards to that experience. Oh, it angers me incredibly... to this day, it makes me want to hit something... someone could possibly get charged with animal cruelty or neglect with animals THAT ARE NOT THERES- but the laws states so because no one else claims them and they jsut happened to end up on my dead end road... possession is 90%, ya know...)

I did keep a baby that was born a few months after they showed up. I am happy with that part.
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post #13 of 21 Old 04-30-2013, 12:23 PM
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I agree with the aggravation of people not taking them til its time to put them out of their misery. I have to agree that if the animal, horse or otherwise, is put up for sale or rehoming while healthy due to inability to care for them and no one takes them until health has diminished to the point of the kill pen being the only alternative is strange.

I just rescued two horse after holding out for someone better suited to come along, but after 3 weeks they never did. I am partnering with a woman I have used for some training who happens to be the one who asked me to help her take them.

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post #14 of 21 Old 04-30-2013, 01:08 PM
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Horse rescue is not well defined or regulated. People have tried to get my horses confiscated but animal control refused because they were all well taken care of and the officer said he admired the fact that I managed to keep my herd. There are people who don't know what they are doing complaining about things like horses "blindfolded" not realizing those are fly masks. People who keep horses imprisoned in stalls see free running horses as neglected. Stallions love to fight. I know people who think it is cruel to keep them separated. It is a tricky subject. The horse industry in the US is not regulated. But people are always looking out for horses and other animals. So do we want strict regulation or the freedom that this country enjoys?
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post #15 of 21 Old 04-30-2013, 09:58 PM
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To me, if you want to "rescue" a horse which it sounds more like getting a horse out of auction to have that horse stand in pasture eating and pooping thats your deal. Its your dollar not mine, just like you get own all those medical bills you or said animal create. If sitting out on your porch and watching a horse graze is what relaxes you and you don't mind the care (feeding, watering, farrier, vet etc) thats associated it than no that horse does not need to be trained to ride or drive (its nice but its your horse). That horse may not be worth 2 dollars to me but it might be worth 100 to the guy next to me. Value is in the eye of the beholder.

I have a bigger issue with people who blame poor behavior on a horse being a rescue. I also have a big issue with folks who "rescue a horse from slaughter" and then either are shocked when it behaves badly (it was there for a reason) or try to recoup money from its care. You can't add vet work or keeping a horse over winter to its sale price. Soon the cost of keeping a horse long term is going to outweigh its value 1000 to 1 very quickly.

Its like when folks save a pit bull or other such dog from the shelter and then take it to an apartment that does not allow dogs. The person is then on craigslist looking for a good home for this dog. The dog does not benefit and you don't benefit, same as this, taking in a horse you can't feed or care for is not saving it from anything.
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post #16 of 21 Old 04-30-2013, 10:06 PM
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it wasnt in a kill pen, the whole process is a scam meant to prey on people emotions. These guys cruise for free horses, then "save" them, then put up adds everywhere about stupid crap like bail, or buy it by friday or it goes to slaughter emotional extortion add to sucker people into paying 4-500 dollars for a worthless horse.
Stop responding to these type of adds.
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post #17 of 21 Old 04-30-2013, 10:11 PM
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Too many people want to be seen as a hero.. when rescusing an animal isn't for bragging rights.. it's because it was in BAD shape and you helped to turn him or her around. Give them a good prolonged life, rather than misery from mistreated either physically or mentally.
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post #18 of 21 Old 04-30-2013, 10:25 PM Thread Starter
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it wasnt in a kill pen, the whole process is a scam meant to prey on people emotions. These guys cruise for free horses, then "save" them, then put up adds everywhere about stupid crap like bail, or buy it by friday or it goes to slaughter emotional extortion add to sucker people into paying 4-500 dollars for a worthless horse.
Stop responding to these type of adds.
In this case the horse was actually at an auction yard along with his pasture mates. I won't argue that the whole thing isn't a scam because it IS intended to feed on people's sympathies. That's why they're sold for more than the sellers would get for a meat price.
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post #19 of 21 Old 05-01-2013, 08:11 AM
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also sold for more than sellers would get for a horse price. Stop feeding into and contributing to these scams.
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post #20 of 21 Old 05-01-2013, 09:34 AM
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It's also called good salesmanship.
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