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post #41 of 116 Old 10-25-2010, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by farmpony84 View Post
In this case, I don't see any of sugar coating a response. Although this baby has been in captivity for a year, it's a relatively unhandled horse that hasn't been introduced to anything but a very sturdy fencing system. The rules are put in place to ensure the safety of these animals. I would not suggest buying a mustang, or even adopting an animal that may have been neglected or abused without considering the financial burden that comes along with it along with the different rules that have been put in place for these animals. They are not domesticated.
I agree with you and MacabreMikolaj, I think the OP might be a bit over her head with this one. Mustangs are not your average horse. They require different living situations, and a few things about this entire situation worry me; finances, and the fact that it will be an only horse on the property.
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post #42 of 116 Old 10-25-2010, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Charis View Post
I agree with you and MacabreMikolaj, I think the OP might be a bit over her head with this one. Mustangs are not your average horse. They require different living situations, and a few things about this entire situation worry me; finances, and the fact that it will be an only horse on the property.
Mustangs are a big no-no for the average horse owner. I don't care how much you wanna save them, or how romantic the old west is, they are a wild horse, period!! some are the exception, but most domestic horse trainers can't truly train a mustang because they train domestic horses
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post #43 of 116 Old 10-25-2010, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Charis View Post
They require different living situations, and a few things about this entire situation worry me; finances, and the fact that it will be an only horse on the property.
Not to mention the OP is trying to go to college, work a job, and somehow thinks buying an untrained, feral horse was a good idea.

The whole thing scares me, mostly for the horse. His chances at turning out to be a decent riding partner and companion don't seem to be very good.

Guitar, with your schooling and job, how do you expect to be able to have the time to work with this horse? Being feral and unused to people is going to make him less tractable than a domestic bred. Plus, since this is your first horse, you don't have the skill sets necessary to train him properly.

The fact that he's used to being surrounded by others of his kind and you're planning to keep him alone, is only going to add to his trauma and unwillingness to deal with you.

This is a horrible, horrible accident waiting to happen. I just hope no innocent people or animals get hurt because of your stubbornness and unwillingness to listen to reason.
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post #44 of 116 Old 10-25-2010, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Charis View Post
I agree with you and MacabreMikolaj, I think the OP might be a bit over her head with this one. Mustangs are not your average horse. They require different living situations, and a few things about this entire situation worry me; finances, and the fact that it will be an only horse on the property.

Not to mention it's your first horse. Seems like you're looking for the fairy tale which very rarely...if ever comes true. IMHO for a first horse you should have looked for an older, been there, done that type of horse to learn on. You're worried about the price of fencing, but have you considered how much it's going to cost to have this horse broke and trained? Or were you just looking for an expensive yard ornament? I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the pricing of the fencing materials is VERY small compared to how much money it's going to take to ensure this horse is fed, shod, vetted, and trained. The cheapest part of buying a horse is what you pay for the horse. I saw a bumper sticker on a Ford Focus this morning on my way to work that summed it all up, "If I Didn't Own a Horsey, This Would Be a Ferrari."

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post #45 of 116 Old 10-25-2010, 02:42 PM
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To be quite frank, the entire situation scares me, and if she does get the horse, I anticipate lots of other threads regarding training and health care. The fact that the OP is complaining about a few hundred dollars on fencing scares me. A few hundred dollars is a drop in the bucket when it comes to horse care; and when it's a few hundred dollars to prevent possibly hundreds more in vet care, and you'd have to spend the money on upgrading fencing anyways?
OP, we aren't trying to ruin your dream about getting your first horse. It's always exciting to get a new horse, whether it's your first or hundredth. I do think that you might want to consider getting a different type of horse, one that has been there, done that. One that can be on a wire fence without (much) worry of him hurting humself. Mustangs are challenging for an experienced horseman, and they are one of the worst 'first horses' that I can imagine.
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post #46 of 116 Old 10-25-2010, 03:51 PM
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Ok every one. I think that you have told the OP a million times over again what you wanted to say. I think its about time to drop it. I really hope the the OP takes all you advice to heart but in the end they will be the one with the heart ake. If they dont do what is asked of them they will not get the horse. Period.

This whole situation scares me but there is nothing any of us can do about it over the computer.

OP I really hope you listen to people on here because they do have some very valuble advice. By the looks of it you will probably need there help alot so try not to burn any bridges.
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post #47 of 116 Old 10-25-2010, 08:10 PM Thread Starter
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I go to school 2 days a week, I'll be working 3 short days a week 5 minutes away from my house. Sorry if you're "scared" for my horse but I did get the fencing after I talked to the blm and might be getting reimbursed. I think you all blew this up into a huge deal. I know horses, I'm not doing this as a dream. This is reality. In a few months when my horse is halter trained you can all choke on your words. I didn't ask to get bashed just if you thought he'd go through fencing. I've been with horses every day for 7 years and I know what I'm doing. I'm fortunate enough to have two professional trainers experienced with blm mustangs willing to aid me whenever I ask so that's taken care of. I'm sorry if I won't be able to spend 24 hours every day with him because I have a job and school. Apparently youve never had to work or go to school a day in your life if that's your outlook on that. Must have either daddy or a sugar daddy doing everything for you. Shouldn't own a horse if you don't know hard work anyway. And just to let you know I'm going to school for equine science next year. And to all you jerks, I didn't pick this horse up because of the "romance", it's because I'm interested and have a respect for ALL breeds, I'm not just a Morgan or thoroughbred snob like most of you completely biased and one sided, open your minds. Maybe you're to lazy to put in the effort and you have your life handed to you, but I don't. I'm willing to work for this. P.S. How exactly can you explain that you spend this tremendous amount of caring loving time together with your horse, and truly display your affectionate attitude toward him/her, when 1: you didn't take the effort to build, you boarded your horse somewhere where you don't know how it's being treated when your backs turned, and you don't have to sweat to take care of it, and you see it for a couple hours every couple days and then jump on these forums to brag about it like it's your toy, when I'm on here to ask legitimate questions. And 2: how are you spending all this time with your horse when you spending 8 hours a day in your computer chair trolling this forums. Get up and take care of your horse with your own blood sweat and tears like I'm going to. In case you haven't noticed I post from a mobile device when I take a 2 minute drink break. And lastly I'm not cheap. I've spent every last penny I have on this, and had nobody to help other than my amazing soon to be fiancÚ, who built the pen with his bare hands with me doing what I could. Quit being a forum troll because you're all miserable drama queens. And thanks to those who do give actual advice instead of whining like fake flake bleeding heart activists.
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post #48 of 116 Old 10-25-2010, 08:41 PM
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GuitarChump, I am sorry you feel the way you do. See it from our side though: if someone came on a forum complaining about the cost of fencing for their feral horse, what would you think? First off, you would think 'if they don't have money for fencing, how are they going to pay vet bills, or any other bill for that matter?' Secondly, you might think 'the information was right there for them, and there are regulations for these horses for good reason. Why does she want to cut corners instead of doing it properly?' People more experienced than yourself have good advice to offer, and have seen tons of ill-fated first horse matches crash and burn than they would like to. From your posts, I haven't seen anything that makes me think anything than what I have stated above.
I owe no-one an explanation of how many hours and how many gallons of blood, sweat and tears I have spent with horses and horse activities throughout the years. I offer my advice, and people can take it or leave it. That is what I have done here.
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You're not offering advice. You're complaining for the sake of your own need for drama. Advice generally helps people, not puts them down. Even negative advice. And what do you not get? the information was RIGHT THERE. And it said the steel braided wire was a great idea. It holds aircraft, it can hold a horse. It cost the same as the lumber would have cost, i thought it would hold up better and that was my reasoning. it was only 35$ or so cheaper. I have no problem spending an extra 35$ on a lifetime companion. It was t fact that the SPECIFICALLY TOLD ME both on the phone, and in person with an honest diagram drawn up and pics, that the cable was fine and a good idea. And then they tell me otherwise the day im supposed to have my buddy. How would you feel? its not a matter of HOW MUCH IT COST, its a matter of me spending 250$ unnecessarily, that could have been spent towards the vet bills or feed, because of their error. So now the fencing is costing me an UNNECESSARY 250$ extra on top of the grand or more i already spent, BECAUSE OF THEIR ERROR, not mine. Now do you understand? If you were in this situation, where you were told everything was perfect and you were about to get your amazing horse, and then that was revoked because of someone else's error, and repetitive error at that, wouldn't you be irritated? And even more irritated then if people acted like it was your fault? Yea. They fed me false information, and they even admitted that it was completely their fault on the phone today, and they will make it up somehow. Still dont understand? would you like me to post the documentation with the schematic on it, and all the specs written out, with a big APPROVED stamp stuck on it?
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post #50 of 116 Old 10-25-2010, 09:12 PM
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I'm sorry but drop the sarcastic snotty attitude.

Our issue with wire is the damage it can cause to a horse who is still fairly new to being fenced! Have you SEEN the damage wire can do to a horse?!?! There are several threads here including graphic photos that will give you a nice example of just how bad wire can maim or even kill or horse.

You keep making excuses for why you cut corners. What you fail to see is that your corner cutting could lead to serious injuries for this horse! Stop acting like a spoiled brat and do what is right by the horse if you insist on owning a mustang for your first horse.

If I was the BLM rep that was dealing with you, I would mark your app with a big ol DECLINED stamp simply due to the fact you can't follow the rules and regulations set forth for the safety of your horse.

If you want people to stop saying things, stop acting like a spoiled brat and acting like the BLM did something wrong and own up to the fact that you have bullied everyone in this situation to go along with what YOU want and not what is in the best interest of the horse.

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