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post #4511 of 4747 Old 11-28-2019, 08:04 AM
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@SueC yes reading about horses history can lead to some fascinating stories and history of the first big arabian breeders farms and ranches.

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@george the mule , I looked at the IPad Pro. I couldn’t justify the money just to play, but I think you could make good use of all the options it has:)

I bought an IPad Seven. I learned there are two versions - “WiFi only” and “WiFi plus cellular”. Turns out it says that on the back of the box but why would I think about that, as my almost five year old IPad Five has both.

Apple may be doing away with that combo. When we returned the “WiFi only” Ipad, the girl at WalMart sharply told DH Wi-Fi plus cellular (SIM card) is not available anymore. He let her gloat on that for about 20 seconds, then told her we had one sitting in the car that we bought from Verizon LOL LOL.

Verizon knocked $150 off, so we ended up paying $29 less than we paid for the “WiFi only Ipad at WalMart, lol

“A balmy 0 degrees” in November is yet another reminder why I chose to retire my arthritis further south, lollol. We had a balmy 36 degrees at 5:00 AM, but we won’t get out of the high 40’s today; about ten degrees below normal for us.

I still think @weedlady is doing quite the “manly-man” thing by retiring full time UP north . I think you should be a snowbird, stay UP during the warm months and come down home for the cold months

@SueC , ditto reading horse history can be fascinating. That is quite the “tail” regarding the two stallions - a miracle the horses and the stable hand survived.
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Yes, it's incredible they survived. Because it's you guys, @walkinthewalk and @RegalCharm , I actually have dug out my journal from 1987 where I had 20 pages of photographs of my horse and some of her ancestors and their histories. Here's the bit I wrote down about that incident, directly from my source, which was an Arabian history book her breeder had lent me: "OFIR (Kuhailan-Haifi DB / Dziwa). Bay stallion foaled 1933. Sire of the great stallions Witraz, Wielki Szlem, Witez II. Ofir was one of the 80 Polish stallions encountering a bomb attack in Dresden, 60 of which broke loose in the flames and devastation, and most of these died. A small, wiry groom, Jan Ziniewicz, held on to Ofir, whose tail was caught alight, and Wielki Szlem; who struggled furiously while the streets around them became littered with the carcases of the less fortunate. Both stallions survived."

Dresden was supposed to be a safe city, which is why everyone had flocked there, but then it was bombed anyway. In the same bombing where my Arabian mare's ancestor's tail caught alight, my parents were pre-schoolers and in the same city because it was supposed to be safe. They remember the bombing even though they were so little. So my late mare and I are both descended from survivors of the Dresden bombings.

They have the exact photo I have of Ofir (from an Arabian magazine) on the All Breeds Database:



Also they have this photo of his son Wielki Szlem, who was the other stallion held by the groom:



Ofir had many progeny; my mare is descended from him through his son Witraz, and then his daughter Arfa, a race mare. Witraz was also the sire of Bask.





Arfa was the mother of Argos, who was imported to England for breeding, and was a show champion there.



Awwww, the horses from those lines are so beautiful... have a look at this page of old-type Arabians:

https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ind...&pedloggedin=0

Stories and rabbit holes...

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@george the mule , did you make a snowman? Or do you get over that if you live with regular snow?
We rarely get snow suitable for making a snowman. It needs to be fairly wet, and deposited in a uniform layer of around 6 inches for it to work well. We generally have too much or too little, and it tends to be dry and not pack well. The grandkids tried when they were visiting for Christmas last year w/o much success. Not that I would be inclined to make one anyway. Now a snow cave . . . But I haven't had an opportunity (or reason) to make one of those in a long time either.
The wind picked up yesterday and rearranged the snow considerably. It was very challenging getting out to attend to the kids yesterday afternoon, with waist-deep drifts artfully applied to the landscape, and numerous unprepared drivers stuck in said drifts and blocking the road. (Incidentally making the drifting just that much worse.) My old Subaru was up to the task tho, with only a little help from my snow shovel. It was dark, and The County had the main road home closed by the time I started back; I had to detour about ten miles on even worse "farm" roads to get around the road block. I was glad to see the lights of town. I will probably put tire chains on my 4X4 pickup truck before setting out this morning. The critters are _still_ wearing their blankets, and will continue to do so as more snow is now being forecast for tonight and tomorrow :-P

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@george the mule , I looked at the IPad Pro. I couldn’t justify the money just to play, but I think you could make good use of all the options it has:)
I shop on eBay. ~$300 for a nice used iPad Pro, but that's still a lot for something that will mostly be used for reading Kindle. LTE is nice if you travel with your device, or lack home internet, otherwise WiFi is fine. Things are in a state of flux as far as the new LTE devices; everybody is waiting to see how the new 5G standard works out. 5G is complex beyond the comprehension of mere mortals. Arthur C Clarke wrote "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Yep.
Re. the weather; I find that cold bothers me less than heat. I can always pile on warmer layers, but once you are down to the skin, you are kinda stuck with the heat. I'm getting to where I can't work outside in the hot sun any more.

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@SueC the majority of the early arabian horses in the U.S. can trace their blood lines back to the Polish Ofir. Because a lot of his prodigy were in the group Gen. Patten had shipped back to the States. And Bask also went on to sire many show winners. There are just to many older Great Arabian Horses to mention.

Also, Breed histories of the Thoroughbred often focus on the three foundation sires -- the Byerley Turk, Darley Arabian, and Godolphin Arabian -- who were brought to England in the late seventeenth and early eighteenth centuries and crossed on English and imported mares.


The sad part about the firebombing of Dresden is that it had little military industry. It was mostly to demoralize the German people.

Among the American POWs who were in Dresden during the raid was novelist Kurt Vonnegut, who conveyed his experience in his classic antiwar novel Slaughterhouse Five.


https://www.history.com/topics/world...tle-of-dresden

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This is just a fun tidbit about poinsettias: my best friend's dad developed the white poinsettia back in the 40's and 50's. He worked for the US government doing plant research. Once he had the white poinsettia down, he finished out his working days breeding interesting carnations. They always had beautiful bouquets of carnations floating around the house.

They always called them poin set tias--I guess they would!
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I still think @weedlady is doing quite the “manly-man” thing by retiring full time UP north . I think you should be a snowbird, stay UP during the warm months and come down home for the cold months
UP North got a huge storm yesterday. All kinds of snow. Schools and stores and offices closed early. Power has been out since 8 last night!

This actually sounds heavenly to me, as long as I have plenty of Hay for the horses, and Diet Coke and wine for me. Oh and chocolate, I will need to keep a supply of chocolate on hand.
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@weedlady What you gone a do when the said description of UP North winter prevents you from resupplying stock of wine and chocolate? And even if you do manage to reach town, the stores will be closed.

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@RegalCharm , if such a stock is large enough, will it be necessary to re-supply often?

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I suppose you could stock up enough but where would the horses sleep.
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