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post #4601 of 5009 Old 12-11-2019, 07:49 PM
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@Woodhaven , that is too funny ó I canít use the mirrors either, lollol. And you better believe my neck and shoulders are probably worse than yours, lollol

I also know about those four foot ditches, except 8t was only on one side of my good friendís driveway.

It was a real treat backing into that, on her busy county road - even after years of practice, lollol

It hurts me to say DH is great backing up with the mirrors. He hauled his race car all over the West Coast for years and had to get the rig in some pretty tight places. That said, he still will never be allowed to carry my horses anywhere in this or the next lifetime, lollol.

Weather was actually pleasant today. Mid-40ís (F) lots of sun, no wind. Down in the 20ís tonight but no wind so tolerable.

@weedlady , Minus three - I keep tipping my hat to you

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I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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post #4602 of 5009 Old 12-11-2019, 10:38 PM
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I used the mirrors to back up trailers. When working at the local marina putting in houseboats in the summer and taking them out at the close of the season.
When you looked out the rear window all you saw was the front of the boat. Some of these were 14 foot wide and 35 foot long.

It was fun sometimes when having to back large pontoons into a building when the owners wanted inside storage for the winter.

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post #4603 of 5009 Old 12-12-2019, 09:51 AM
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Hi K&K

Just wanted to chime in on backing a trailer:
Go SLOW. Very slow. If your truck has a low range, use it. That way you can see and correct unwanted behavior before it gets to the point where you have to go forward to correct mis-alignment.
When backing, try to visualize the arc(s) necessary to move the trailer into the desired position. Get out and look things over if necessary. Also look for fixed obstacles like trees or gate posts that might interfere with the process; it's way easy to bang the front of your tow vehicle into things while you are concentrating on what's happening behind you.
Once you have a clear picture in mind, use large input from the steering (all the way to the stop) to get the trailer pointed in the correct direction, then immediately straighten the steering to put the truck in line with the desired turning arc. From here, use only minor steering input to keep things in line. This is important enough to reiterate: big steering to align, small steering to maintain. Once this sinks in, backing will become much easier, and you will generally be able to speed things up a bit.
Silly as it sounds, practice in the barn by "driving" a small wagon backwards thru doorways and around feed bins, etc. It's the same geometry.
Also, assuming you have a tractor, get a "tow" attachment for the 3-point, and use that to move trailers around in The Yard at home. You can achieve much more precise positioning that way, and it's good practice for when ya gotta do it with a big truck/less visibility. Given the opportunity, I will use my tractor to get a trailer out from its parking spot, get it loaded, pull it out to the street, and then finally back the truck up to it, hook up, and drive away. The process reverses when I get it home.
One final trailer trick: I have an inexpensive wireless back-up camera. Rather than mount it on the license plate per usual, I attached a couple of strong magnets to it. When I need to connect a trailer, I position the camera to where I can clearly see the ball on the screen, and thus can generally back right up to the hitch in one go. "That's Cheating!" "Yup :-)"

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post #4604 of 5009 Old 12-12-2019, 12:47 PM
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Great advice George, I shall take them to heart and I know when using the mirrors I do tend to oversteer and on the narrow opening off the road, very bad. I wonder how many miles I have used pulling ahead to realign when I get crooked. I know others don't like this drive even if pulling in with a car so backing a trailer in is intimidating. Hubby backs in perfectly EVERY time.

When I first started trailering I had a 1956 Ford and only one small mirror on the driver's side which didn't show much so got in the habit of looking back.

I practice some at home with the backing as we have lots of space and think I have it down pat but when I get to Sis's I seem to forget everything I have worked on.

Good idea about the camera, I can line up ball hitch to the trailer but am not always sure about how many inches to go at the very last. One time I was backing up to hitch up and needed to back about one inch, which I did and then put into park, the truck rolled ahead a bit and I was back where I started from, did this a few time then finally just pulled ahead a foot and started over again.
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post #4605 of 5009 Old 12-12-2019, 10:18 PM
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@george themule

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post #4606 of 5009 Old 12-12-2019, 10:25 PM
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Once you have a clear picture in mind, use large input from the steering (all the way to the stop) to get the trailer pointed in the correct direction, then immediately straighten the steering to put the truck in line with the desired turning arc. From here, use only minor steering input to keep things in line. This is important enough to reiterate: big steering to align, small steering to maintain. Once this sinks in, backing will become much easier, and you will generally be able to speed things up a bit.
Thank you @george the mule !!!! This is very helpful. I keep asking Dear Husband for the "formula" and he can't tell me. This is exactly what I wanted to know!
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post #4607 of 5009 Old 12-12-2019, 11:08 PM
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The saga of Cash

Well he got his annual physical and inoculations. The vet was very pleased. Iíve been managing him a little over a year. When we met I could count his ribs from a distance in his winter coat. And as mentioned his feet were not great. After a year of daily biotin and 12 oz of low starch supplements his hooves, still too thin for my comfort, hold nails without cracking. Heís gained 60#. He got floated among other things. Vet said he was very stoic and itís certain his teeth were bothering him. He pointed out very obvious indicators of miss alignment and showed me places inside his mouth where sharp outside molars where leaving scars. He and the farrier consulted and she made some minor adjustments. Sudden improvements in gait. He obviously feels better and shows me he is capable of being a knuckle head on occasion. But he doesnít drift to the gate or barn after 45 minutes anymore. Wish I had time to exercise him more. Both vet and trainer said he was fit and sound enough to canter up a grade now. His walk is improved to the point he doesnít fight to trot up hill anymore. His owner told me he would terminate the lease in May or June. I grow more attached to him by the day. My wife requires more than ever. No easy answers. The saga continues.

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post #4608 of 5009 Old 12-12-2019, 11:33 PM
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@Rob55 - Good outlook for Cash, it seems.

Hope you can get everything else worked out, too.

All the best to you and your wife this holiday season.
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post #4609 of 5009 Old 12-13-2019, 12:30 AM
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At my soon to be home UP North it was -3 degrees F earlier today with wind chill making it feel much colder. And more snow. Hopefully they will get a break soon too.
@weeedlady , I just looked that up in Celsius!

Have you stocked up on thermal underwear?

How does your face not freeze off in those conditions - with wind too?


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In Ohio- Today felt cold at 27 degrees F, but the sun was shining and we have just a dusting of snow.
That's about as cold as it ever gets here, but without the snow, unless we go up into the mountains, and then only on a blue moon!

That was a nice ride report on the Trails thread! You mightn't have thought it was scenic, but it looked pretty interesting to me to ride on a tow path - I've never done that before! ...not many canals around here...

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post #4610 of 5009 Old 12-13-2019, 08:08 AM
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@Rob55 sending good thoughts your way. I hope things work out for you in whatever way is best.

@SueC re: thermal underwear- yes, most definitely. I am accumulating a rather large collection is assorted fabrics and weights. lol.

Today it's going to be almost 40 here in Ohio. Fewer layers for our ride this afternoon.
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