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post #41 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 02:54 PM
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These are very serious allegations.

What makes you think someone would just randomly pick your horse to terrorize?

If they tied him up and beat him, he should have whip marks. Does he?

How do you know 'someone' came back a second night and assaulted him?

Who is 'we'? You and who else believe these things happened?

With all the nuts in the world abuse does happen, but I'm skeptical as to why they'd pick only your horse to attack. Crazies usually don't stop with just one animal.

Have the police been called? If not, why? Breaking and entering is a felony and animal abuse is either a felony or misdemeanor, depending on where you live.

I don't see a 'terrified' horse in those videos; I see one who knows he can walk all over his handler.
I agree.
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post #42 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 03:17 PM
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That's terrible, but I think it's very irresponcible for you to be in a paddock with him now. Let your trainer tell you what to do, but PLEASE don't go in that paddock with him again until he's sorted out!
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post #43 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 05:04 PM
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I'm going to come right out and say what people are hinting about. I don't believe a word of the OP. The most telling thing about the post is when the horse is described as such a wonderful boy that she could do anything on when there are several threads about how she can't get the dink to run around her in a circle without jerking her off her feet and running off.
Gonna come right out and say thank you to Kevin for not beating around the bush.

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post #44 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 05:07 PM
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I agree with Kevin and Speed Racer.

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post #45 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 06:01 PM Thread Starter
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Why would you flick a lead rope at him while he is loose when you know he has had a bad experience with people hitting him with whips in the paddock? That does not make sense at all to me, either you were doing it for the reaction he gave so you could video tape it or you truly thought this was a friendly gesture. I don't know which is worse.

Your body language around this horse speaks volumes, you appear terrified of him. This is not the way to be around a horse that is slightly dominant anyway as the behaviour will only worsen. When you approach with a saddle blanket, do so quietly, confidently and try not to wave it at him. It should be folded and held at your side so he can see it but not be startled by it when it flaps in the wind. If you truly are this frightened of him it sounds like you could benefit from having someone else work him through these issues.
I didn't flick it as such what I was doing was holding it over the fence for him to sniff and check out. Thanks, I was frightened of him because this was the first day he started doing this. But my trainers coming out today and helping us so hopefully we will do well.

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post #46 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry Maddie just a quick unrelated point I have to make. PLEASE don't tie any horse, particularly Chinga in his present state of mind, to a float that is not attached to a car. Have seen that happen before, horse pulled back, twine didn't break and horse pulled float across a paddock going absolutely off it's rocker. VERY dangerous thing to do!
Thanks :) Didn't know that.

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post #47 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 06:13 PM Thread Starter
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These are very serious allegations.

What makes you think someone would just randomly pick your horse to terrorize?

If they tied him up and beat him, he should have whip marks. Does he?

How do you know 'someone' came back a second night and assaulted him?

Who is 'we'? You and who else believe these things happened?

With all the nuts in the world abuse does happen, but I'm skeptical as to why they'd pick only your horse to attack. Crazies usually don't stop with just one animal.

Have the police been called? If not, why? Breaking and entering is a felony and animal abuse is either a felony or misdemeanor, depending on where you live.

I don't see a 'terrified' horse in those videos; I see one who knows he can walk all over his handler.
The police has been contacted, yes there are whip marks. First of as much as my horse has previously been a jerk and has gotten quite rude on the ground. THIS. Is NOT My Horse. Apart from he has his really bad hair cut and his brands. How do we know this is happening? Well heres the long story.

The daughter of where I adjist had a massive argument with her boyfriend and moved back in with her parents. Her boyfriend was always funny about Chinga, Chinga never liked him eaither. So.. one night they came round while we were there (Inside) and chased Chinga around with sticks. Dad went out and told them to go away, they also wrote on the side of the caravan "Hate *Insert Name*" (This family is massivly offended by stuff like this). A few other things happened, that I will not post on this forum.

Chinga has never had a problem with me walking up to him and is quite happy for me to do so. I believe I have a video of it somewhere. We - My parents, the agistment owners.

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post #48 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 06:39 PM
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When I first saw this video, my immediate thought was: you are totally terrified of this horse and he is the boss. You can see it, you approach, he lays his ears back and charges and you go away. CHinga is the boss, not you.
My second question is: if you can't approach him without him attacking you or charging you, who caught and tied him up to the trailer?
My third thought is: if someone came around when I was inside the barn and was chasing my horse around, they would have been caught and held until the cops showed up. If your dad is that big, he should have chased them down and tackled them for animal abuse. Then if it happend like you said, he got tied up and attacked with whips, and there was a chance it have happened a second night, I would have been sitting all night waiting for another attack and they would have been really surprised to find me waiting.
I think you need someone to help you with a horse that is way over your head in experience.
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post #49 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 09:43 PM
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She has already said that her trainer is coming out to help her. i have seen vids of her riding Chinga before. He doesn't seem like the same horse as before to me. And hell, I'd prolly run if my horse came at me like that. there's a diffrence in a dominant horse and a fearful one. I had a extremly dominant mare that would charge in the pasture, but since she wasn't scared of me she would allways turn last minute. She didn't want me dead, just gone. I have noticed this with other horses as well. Chinga isn't turning away. What I see here is a hatred of people, he doesn't want to be bullied so he's doing the only thing he knows to do. I'm sorry this happened to you, and yes it's gonna take a while for you to gain back his trust again. I wish you the best of luck.

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post #50 of 144 Old 05-14-2010, 09:49 PM
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As much as I sort-of have to agree with everyone, all I have to say is just be careful and never make assumptions. I was always told that a horse will never run you over, they don't want to hurt you, and a lot of times I found it to be true- one horse I owned, however, was definitely NOT going to stop, she WAS going to run over me and I DID run away from her- stay safe, move slowly, and alwaysalwaysalways have a trainer or SOMEBODY else with you until you are absolutely completely confident that he isn't going to hurt you.
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