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post #71 of 144 Old 05-15-2010, 07:31 AM Thread Starter
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I personally think that is a very good question and one I'd love to hear the answer to. Just judging by the video, I wouldn't think you'd be able to get that close to him. Is there someone around you that is able to handle him?
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post #72 of 144 Old 05-15-2010, 07:42 AM
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Normally I would never say this and I'm sorry. If you came to me for help I would say:

I know this is the last thing you want to hear. I think you are in way over your head, and because of that both you and your horse are suffering. I think that unless you, not your horse, take classes to learn how to do basic things and how to work with your horse, things are just going to get worse.

I can clearly see someone who is afraid of her horse, which is probably the root of all your problems. Even if someone beat Gunther with a thorn bush and a club he wouldn't react like Chinga did. I'm guessing that this isn't the first time he has done this.

I really, really, hate to see a person and a horse like this. It makes it not fun for the rider or the horse. Maybe you should sell him? :/ I KNOWKNOW this isn't what you want to hear. I love hearing about your progress and your love of him to death, however I think it would be best if you found another horse. It isn't a crime, it's the right thing to do. You remind me of me when I was younger, right down to your words of choice.

If I could I would fly down and help you! But I can't

I think Chinga would be a challenge for even the most experienced horse person, no doubt. Let alone for one who is still learning? He is a very hot headed horse who is willing to take full advantage of you. Just from his attitude in that 3min? vid I would not want him. I would say get rid of him asap.

I HATE seeing you post things like this, it breaks my heart. Even though I don't post much I do read alot of your threads and to me you're like a little sister. And coming from big sister I don't want you to go through this.

I just feel like you have used all of your resources and it's time. Get a horse that is worth the money you're putting into Chinga, one that is trustworthy and you can build a great relationship with.


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post #73 of 144 Old 05-15-2010, 07:50 AM Thread Starter
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Normally I would never say this and I'm sorry. If you came to me for help I would say:

I know this is the last thing you want to hear. I think you are in way over your head, and because of that both you and your horse are suffering. I think that unless you, not your horse, take classes to learn how to do basic things and how to work with your horse, things are just going to get worse.

I can clearly see someone who is afraid of her horse, which is probably the root of all your problems. Even if someone beat Gunther with a thorn bush and a club he wouldn't react like Chinga did. I'm guessing that this isn't the first time he has done this.

I really, really, hate to see a person and a horse like this. It makes it not fun for the rider or the horse. Maybe you should sell him? :/ I KNOWKNOW this isn't what you want to hear. I love hearing about your progress and your love of him to death, however I think it would be best if you found another horse. It isn't a crime, it's the right thing to do. You remind me of me when I was younger, right down to your words of choice.

If I could I would fly down and help you! But I can't

I think Chinga would be a challenge for even the most experienced horse person, no doubt. Let alone for one who is still learning? He is a very hot headed horse who is willing to take full advantage of you. Just from his attitude in that 3min? vid I would not want him. I would say get rid of him asap.

I HATE seeing you post things like this, it breaks my heart. Even though I don't post much I do read alot of your threads and to me you're like a little sister. And coming from big sister I don't want you to go through this.

I just feel like you have used all of your resources and it's time. Get a horse that is worth the money you're putting into Chinga, one that is trustworthy and you can build a great relationship with.
Sadly I can't sell him. He literally is the only thing holding me together. We're giving him one more go, his got one more chance (With my instructors trainer, who I bet will be able to get him under control).

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If you absoloutly CAN'T sell him then a suggestion is to put him down if he is that bad and if he is behaving like this he is not a perfectly good horse. If you are scared of him he is dangerous. He WILL hurt you eventually.
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post #76 of 144 Old 05-15-2010, 12:12 PM
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Well, my reply got ignored, and my advice, when we talked in chat, is pretty much what White Foot said. Good luck, ChingazMyBoy, I am going to stick with my last reply in one of your other threads.
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post #77 of 144 Old 05-15-2010, 12:38 PM
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Sadly I can't sell him. He literally is the only thing holding me together.
Ridiculous. No matter what you are going through (I've read your other threads), you are over your head with this horse. Sell him and get attached to a horse that will build your confidence not have you asking for advise and not taking it. If you want realistic suggestions and help - you already got it, take it. You can't expect pity if you refuse to take advise from the more knowledgeable people here.

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post #78 of 144 Old 05-15-2010, 01:35 PM
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I don't understand why you continue to post these threads. I think I've read 15 now that, after 8+ pages of advice, culminate in you still refusing to change anything. It's frustrating for the knowledgable people here who waste their valuable time trying to help you.
What has been said is correct. You need to sell this horse. Yeah, it sucks. I KNOW, I've been there. My first horse was a cheapo, barely-trained guy who had some serious psychological issues. I spent three years working with that horse - getting hurt, not having any fun, and finally ended up rehoming him. I'm an eventer, and he simply couldn't handle the pressure. Now he's living in a big field with a buddy, ridden like, twice a week in a bitless bridle and Aussie saddle, and basically just pampered. He loves it, his owner loves him, and they have FUN.
I had to accept that. Yeah, I spent a few days bawling my eyes out over selling him. But what helped me was immediately having something to fill the void - I had found an experienced eventer to lease for the competition season, and she arrived a day or two after Danny left. So I had something to keep me occupied. After she left, I was given a phenomenal horse, and I'm more attached to him than I could ever have imagined - and you know what? I can get on him, school 2nd level dressage, pop around a 3'3 course, do whatever, because I don't have to worry about what crazy stuff he'll pull!
Saying your horse is 'the only thing holding you together' is whiny and quite honestly, you come off as an attention seeking emo kid. Suck it up, grow a pair, and be a horseman - do what's right for this horse and find something more appropriate so that YOU can learn and grow. I spent three years not improving at all, and now that I have a great horse, I improve exponentially by the day. You need to do the same, and you also need a huge attitude adjustment. You're what, 13? At 13 everyone seems to think the sun shines out of their back side and they're god's gift to horse training. It doesn't, and you're not. Learn to learn.

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post #79 of 144 Old 05-15-2010, 02:46 PM
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Sadly I can't sell him. He literally is the only thing holding me together.
Is that fair to HIM, though? If you truly love the horse as you say you do, wouldn't you want what is best for HIM? It isn't about YOU at this point. It isn't his job to hold you together - it is YOUR job to do what is best for your horse and, frankly, you aren't it. The two of you are in a toxic relationship and someone is going to get hurt (as it is now, you are both suffering).
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Honestly, I think all of your 10+ threads on Chinga's attitude change are ridiculous. You got all the answers you need in the first *two or three*, why do you need to keep changing your wording a little each time and posting for the SAME ANSWERS you know you will get every time you make a new thread? I can't help but notice you dodge everything in this thread that points to irresponsibility on your part. The truth of the matter is, one day one of the two of you is going to get seriously hurt. As mean as this sounds, I can tell you very few people on this forum will be posting sympathetically.

I have a bad horse. He kicks, he bites, he has no ground manners, and he's 1,700 lbs. I could have him sent to a trainer's for a few months to turn him into a rideable horse for my mom, but why would we when we can sell him and get a horse that has a good disposition? You can train a horse all you want, but his underlying disposition will not change with all the trainers in the world. I've accepted that, and that's why I'm looking to rehome him to someone who has the time and experience to put up with his crap and retrain him.

All we're asking is that you sell him already. It's cruel to him to keep him somewhere where he's not understood, and one (or both) of you is going to get seriously hurt.
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