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post #11 of 22 Old 10-23-2013, 09:24 PM
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...Also, it's not like she's just turning her out and letting her beat her up- she stands out there, and if things get nasty, they get separated. This wasn't made clear in your prior posts, & it didn't seem like this was the case, by your description. Good to hear...
Plan B should've already been thought out, which necessarily includes all of your logistics, like being 2 hours away, in school, etc.

Horses require a lot of preparation/thinking things through/Plan B & so on.
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post #12 of 22 Old 10-23-2013, 11:38 PM Thread Starter
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I've owned horses for 13 years, but thanks for the tip! I don't really know why you're being so antagonistic, so I'll suffice it to say that it's a sucky situation that I'm trying to rectify while also juggling a full time 8-5 job and take care of my other horses and pets. My friend is competent and I trust her judgement. I don't have it out for the baby, nor would I leave my mare there to do something awful if I thought it wasn't being handled. I was just hoping for some first hand experience from someone to see how they got through it.

Thank you to those of you that provided helpful advice.
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post #13 of 22 Old 10-24-2013, 09:21 AM
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Since your friend seems to be happy to take the risk - and its her filly after all - then let her see how things settle or don't.
She sounds to be doing her best to control the situation.
I think once she starts riding your horse things might improve - taking the other horse out might actually force your mare to accept the filly as a friend too because she wont see it as something to be jealous of.
Hope things work out for you both
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post #14 of 22 Old 10-24-2013, 09:46 AM
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my mare did this with a yearling i introduced her to about a year ago. we put my mare in with the yearling and her mother, and my mare came from across the arena to attack the filly. we had two small paddocks next to each other, and put one in each, and took all the other horses away. herd instinct kicked in, they were ok grazing next to each toehr with a fence between them after the first day. put them together two days later, and anne stomped and squealed a little, but when the yearling started clacking her teeth and chewing at her, she calmed down and grazed. we did this for three or four days, then turned them out with the rest of the horses again. (draft mare, the yearlings mother,the yearling and anne) they had a little more squealing and pinned ears, then went back to normal.

bottom line, when we took away the other horses, they had only each other to rely on, so they made nice. this established a bond and an order within a safe environment, which could be used as a baseline for their position in the herd as a whole.

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post #15 of 22 Old 10-24-2013, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you Analisa and Jaydee! I appreciate the help and the first hand account.
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I wasn't antagonistic: I was concerned for the weanling & you didn't explain that your friend was with horses whenever they were together, till you clarified. You can't see that, but instead say I've been antagonistic to you?

I think that any reasonable person'd read my posts & not see "antagonism" there, but rather, concern for horses. I could've added, "it might work out", & tell you how it worked out for OTHER horses, like AnalisaP did, but fact is, that's saying nothing, because each horse & therefore each situation is unique! This is especially true with a wealing: a bonding can occur, or the weanling can get beaten up or killed.

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post #17 of 22 Old 10-27-2013, 04:41 AM
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Northern i have owned horses for 46 years and my family for generations. I have never seen or heard of a horse killing another one. Ever. I have seen them biten and kicked most do not need medical attention. Only rarely do they harm each other that severely. All my horses are kept in a herd enviroment never stalled. Weanlings might be abused but never crippled most horses are not that destructive to one of their own kind. Stallions maybe if challenged by another male, but not IMO mares or foals. Shalom
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dbarabians, you can look in the archives right here on this forum & find at least one thread where one horse cornered another horse at a fence & killed it. When I was 12 years old, a newborn foal was run & savaged to death by the other horses when the mom was too weak from the birth to defend it. It happens, & I'm amazed that you've been unaware of it.
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It seems like sometimes they just consider certain other horses to be 'weak' and feel the need to bully them, too. I have a filly who had a tough start at life and had been battling a lot of different problems, and she was very stunted (yearling, but weanling sized) and the same thing happened with her. I tried turning her out for the first time with other horses at 17 months old, and they either blatantly ignored her/didn't let her be part of the herd or beat her up. Normally quiet mares chased her around the pasture and laid teeth and hooves into her if she even looked their way. I guess they just realized she was weaker to them and a 'threat' to their herd so they kept her away. She also had no horse socialization/communication skills at ALL which is probably another reason they disliked her.

Now that she's 2 though, after a lot of patience and slow socialization (I kept her alone for a while and just let her 'visit' other one other horse at a time while I watched them then progressed to turn out with one horse, then two, etc.,) and after her putting on 300 lbs and 6 inches, most horses accept her as part of the herd. She gets beat up more than the others and always has some kind of bite or kick mark it seems, but she's happy and the mares leave her alone unless she steps out of line.

This friends weanling might be unsocialized, or just too small for your mare to handle for now. There are so many variables that without seeing them in action, its hard to tell you how to solve it or why your mare might be bullying the filly.
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Nothern I am not aware of any horse being killed by another. My family has raised horses for generations and I now own 31. That equates to well over 100 horses in my lifetime bred and owned by myself and my parents. My foals are born in a pasture with as many as 10 other mares and geldings.
Never has a foal been hurt intentionally by another horse here. Now those pastures are sometimes as small as 10 acres and as large as 200.
A horse killing another horse is RARE. My two mature stallions might do each other damage but their motivation is different than that of a mare. Shalom
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