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post #1 of 40 Old 10-07-2019, 11:51 AM Thread Starter
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Meet #9402, BLM Yearling Filly

Okay, so let me make this upfront and clear. This was again not my idea. My husband is wanting to get out of cattle and into horses more. We're bleeding money with the cattle market down. Sure it'll come back up but until then? Ouch. (Makes you wonder why hamburger is still 6.99 a lb or whatever astronomical price it is, eh?).

He is not in this because he loves horses. He admits he likes them better than cows, but he's not like me. He sees the $1000.00 incentive and in his head, that's more than a cow will bring at the market in a year. He does. not. care. what happens after that year is up. He's not a right so and so but he isn't a horse lover like I am. He's just practical, sometimes a bit too much. To him, horses like her are just livestock, to be bought and sold.

Me, I'm seeing the end result. Get a horse, take care of it a year, then what? If they don't have a job, they are going to end up in Mexico. I want a horse to have the best chance at a good life if it leaves our place.

So. I told him if he goes this direction, it will be me choosing the horse, and I wanted time to watch them in the pens. I wanted to look for a yearling, one that shows signs of being a larger Mustang when full grown. I wanted to see how they handed chaos and stress, if they were biters or kickers or jackwagons in general. I didn't care if gelding or filly. Barring any horrific flaws in conformation, I just wanted one that was inquisitive and relatively calm under pressure. She will be taught to lead, load, let us handle her feet, be trimmed, and eventually will get taught to be ridden under saddle. For now, it's the basics and first things first are trust and respect to be mutally earned.

This is #9402. She is from Nevada, something something Valley... (Not Palomino Valley - I'd have to look at her papers again). The BLM lady who processed our paperwork claims to be from there and stated that most of the Mustangs out of that area are heavily influenced with Morgan and TB ancestry. I believe it. Some of those horses were well over 15hh, but also didn't show a LOT of the typical Mustang hallmarks, but I couldn't put my fingers on what I was seeing. Others were quite petite, almost delicate looking, had the floofy mane, forelock, tails, quite elegant - but small in stature, quite obviously of the Spanish heritage. Others looked like they were cobbled together from spare parts, like a kid assembling a model car with leftover parts from various makes and models.

This one, as has been pointed out by DreamCatcher, is probably going to be a rough riding little lady. Her pasterns are stocky, fairly upright, her fores run straight up into her shoulders. I compared her build to Trigger's and... they are put together about the same as far as the pasterns/leg/shoulder set up. And he is a ROUGH riding little dude... but he's an awesome trail horse.

So I'm hoping she makes a good trail pony. Her attitude was unflustered when the cowboys were using the flags to pull out various horses... she just got out and away from the knots of fillies, all fighting to get in the corner away from the circus. She wasn't the one to bite, or kick others. She kept circling the pen, getting a little closer to us with every pass. She was curious and more interested in people than the others in her pen.

She's tapped my fingers and snuffled them while in the trailer and I was standing outside, fingers on the bars. She's sniffed and nuzzled my hair while in the trailer as well. In the pen, she was, of course, wanting to stay as far from me as possible. If I just ignored her though, she couldn't stand it and would come to investigate me. I took a chance on seeing how she'd handle a human holding her lead rope... it took about 10-15 minutes, and a few wrong answers, for her to realize a single step toward me would release the tension I kept on the lead rope. 5 more minutes later, and she was walking calm circles around me on the lead rope.

She is probably a sabino sorrel - she has a few white spots on her belly, roaning on her barrel. She still has her short, fuzzy little baby mane, a little baby fuzz in her hair... yet she's nearly 14.2/14.3... she's taller than Superman, maybe taller than Trigger... yet clearly is still very much a baby when you compare them to one another.

Not sure what her name will be. Right now, like all our fillies, she's just Little Sister. In the pictures at the pens, she's the sorrel filly to the right - always standing just a little apart from the others.
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Nice filly...
She's going to be a big girl...stout.
She may be "straight" but not as bad as I think she will finish growing into.
Broad chest, deep heartgirth, nice hip....
She's going to be a working girl...smart and shrewd!!


Enjoy the project.
She just might not ever leave once you get working with her more...
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Have fun!

My kids sure enjoyed the ones they got, and they were all 6-7 years old.

They all had two unusual habits. And came from different HMAs. They didn't want to drink from tanks once the water got low enough that they couldn't see around when drinking, and they didn't like being ridden or led under trees with low branches.

Both habits make sense when you think of being wary of predators. And they got over it within a couple months.

I hope you do great with your filly.
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Nice filly...
She's going to be a big girl...stout.
She may be "straight" but not as bad as I think she will finish growing into.
Broad chest, deep heartgirth, nice hip....
She's going to be a working girl...smart and shrewd!!


Enjoy the project.
She just might not ever leave once you get working with her more...
...

Someone gotta go. LOL She's No. 8 of our herd, and while Superman is 25/26ish, and AJ is only for very light riding, we still have Trigger, Gina, and Oops that are 'in service', Outback is still too young, she won't be two until March, and Red... well. She's still wild as a march hare, but she's not mine and I'm not going to spend much of time on her. That's Daughter's hot mess to figure out.


I can't ride them all. But hopefully she'll make SOMEONE a fine trail mount. That said, if she's the sane one and say, Outback is a problem child, Outback may get sold and 9402 stays. IDK, we'll have to see how it goes I guess. I'm heartened by how young she is, and how curious yet calm (relatively speaking) she is, and how fast she figured out the right answer was the path of least resistance.



I did feel bad for those other horses though. Very few got adopted, and one poor little old horse... he's a 6 year old, been through the adoption events several times and not chosen. He had such an ewe neck + high wither he looked like Quasimodo Literally had a humpback. He was a dirty black colored horse, small built, not even a nice color, but he was the friendly one in the older geldings pen. He was up for outright sale - I told Hubs I wish we could just take him home, cut him loose in the pasture, and just let him be a horse and not ask anything of him, ever.
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That bay on the left in the 3rd picture looks to have the makings of a nice horse, too. Congrats on your new filly She's a lucky gal.
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Something else - I didn't want to go into this blind. So I started looking up all the personality traits, etc, what to expect, yadda yadda. Talk about some horror stories out there on various horse forums.



I saw one tale about someone who bought a bunch of older BLM mares, let their QH stallion cover them (YOU'RE BREEDING MORE?) and then had them locked in foaling stalls, and let a 'touristy' type person INTO THE STALL TO SEE THE CUTE LITTLE BABY and nearly got that person KILLED by a mad, wild momma horse. They were stunned the wild mares weren't all friendly with people being around the babies....


Another bought a yearling, hadn't had it long, walked right up dead behind it, got kicked double barrels and had her chest caved in. She allegedly died from it.


There were multiple tales of First Time Saddling disasters, broke arms, you name it.


My take away real quick on them were: 99% of these horror stores could happen with ANY horse if you're stupid around them, and these were definitely Stupid Human moments.


I can't help but wonder how many know just enough horsemanship to be dangerous (The people, not the horses), and they buy into the Saving the Nobel Wild American Icon from the Sinister BLM.... get it home, and then realize quickly that the reality of one of these horses, vs the fantasy, are very different things. I suspect a LOT and it gets them hurt and then a bad reputation follows the horse from buyer to buyer, the problems multiply... and it's just no bueno.



On the positive side, they seem to generally have a disposition like Trigger - they may never be snuggle horses, or in your pocket ponies (Like Oops or Gina), but once you earn their trust and respect, they will bond to a human and will do for them what they won't do for anyone else. They may always be a bit shy around strangers, maybe a bit more reactive/easily startled by stupid human stuff, but all in all, the success stories sing their praises. A guy I went to HS with and lives a few miles from me has one (I did not realize THAT horse is a BLM horse!) and the horse is their 'kids horse'. He takes care of all their kids and grandkids, very sociable and friendly.



I'm not hoping for Spirit, Horse of the Wild here, just a sane, sound little horse. I don't even hope for safe because in my opinion, no horse is bomb proof.
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That bay on the left in the 3rd picture looks to have the makings of a nice horse, too. Congrats on your new filly She's a lucky gal.



The little black one with the star on her forehead?

She was a 'true' Mustang, very petite in build, but very NICELY made. She was a 2 year old and we don't have the 6ft corral for more than a yearling right now. If we'd have been approved for an older horse, she'd have gone home with us. She was stunning. The guy that got her also took #1881... a dabbled liver bay out of the same pen. Those three... the sorrel, the black, and the liver bay, were the best built in the filly pen.
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Boy is she cute....

I'm waiting to see a big increase in the market for mustangs for endurance riders. There was I believe 9 entered in Tevis this year and 8 finished (and the 9th did all 100 miles and was pulled at the end for lameness). Most of them owned/trained by Mark Montgomery, but they had a far better completion rate than any other breed. Unfortunately for those looking to flip endurance horses are not going to score big purchase prices like other competition horses but I still think there will be a growing market for them in the upcoming years.

If I didn't have so many dang horses I would be looking for one. Also I would need a 9 ft tall pen or whatever they're requiring these days which I do not have.
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Boy is she cute....

I'm waiting to see a big increase in the market for mustangs for endurance riders. There was I believe 9 entered in Tevis this year and 8 finished (and the 9th did all 100 miles and was pulled at the end for lameness). Most of them owned/trained by Mark Montgomery, but they had a far better completion rate than any other breed. Unfortunately for those looking to flip endurance horses are not going to score big purchase prices like other competition horses but I still think there will be a growing market for them in the upcoming years.

If I didn't have so many dang horses I would be looking for one. Also I would need a 9 ft tall pen or whatever they're requiring these days which I do not have.

5 ft for yearlings, 6 ft for anything older. Funny thing is, she is taller now than most of the 2 year olds and up. A few of the mature mares and geldings were pretty tall, but for her general age group, yeahhhhh. If she wanted to jump a 5ft corral, she could do it.


I suspect Mustangs will be a growing, but still niche market. If she has the go and the stamina Trigger does, she'd be a good candidate for an endurance horse - but. If she rides rough? IDK. Will just have to wait and see.

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ANND this is what gets people hurt. Taken directly from a Mustang support group, about a video where a wild burro just rushed someone, ears pinned:


*name redacted* "My mustang pins her ears at me when I run away from her and then runs after me. Its funny"


That right there is a massive red flag. Holy. Mackerel.
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