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post #11 of 28 Old 06-04-2013, 09:22 PM
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There was a lady who brought her leopard hound to the barn and he would just chase the horses all day. I told her to tie him or don't bring him since she wouldn't discipline him for it and it was getting dangerous, or I would buy a plastic BB gun and pepper his butt with plastic balls.

She let him run until I got the BB gun and started firing at his hind end when he'd go after the horses. I only had to hit his thigh once before she freaked out and never brought him back.

This was at a highly expensive fox hunting facility. Some of you will tell me "I would kill you if you shot my dog!" But you know what? The lady was warned, the dog was acting dangerously, the bullets were little plastic balls and no one was hurt, and everyone needed to take the situation seriously. No one did until I pulled out the gun.
We tried that too but my skills with the gun suck! The collar was way easier :0) It does not matter what kind of horse the dog goes for - it has to be teached NOT to do it when told - totally see your point and would have done the same!
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post #12 of 28 Old 06-04-2013, 09:25 PM
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Muzzle him whenever he is around the horse for starters.

I 5th the shock collar! We trained my rottie (who we pts in February) with one. We enlist the help of a trainer so we knew how to properly use it. The ONLY time we used it as an end all be all to something was in the car when he used to bark at ANYTHING in the road. It only took ONE time with a heavy shock from the collar and me yelling at him like a lunatic for him to totally stop the behavior.

Just like any training tool, whether its a collar, bit or food, it can go seriously wrong with the wrong operator behind the controls!! There is nothing wrong with an e-collar if you know how to appropriately use one!
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post #13 of 28 Old 06-04-2013, 09:35 PM
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A hoof to the head will cause some serious physical and emotional damage to the dog too.
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post #14 of 28 Old 06-04-2013, 09:53 PM
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^^Exactly. We had a dog get kicked by a cow while he was working. He immediately went into seizures and the vet put him down the next day after it became apparent that he wasn't going to stop seizing. Not only was that a bad deal for the dog, but it sort of traumatized me because I was very young at the time.
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post #16 of 28 Old 06-04-2013, 10:16 PM
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I rescued a dog that was shock collar traumatized. Whomever uses a shock collar really needs to know what they're doing - juicing the dog is a fine line that varies with every dog.

When I was a kid, growing up on the dairy farm, dogs got a lead earring if they chased the livestock. Sometimes after one warning, sometimes after no warnings - it would depend on which farmer was doing the shooting

I am fortunate to have one horse that will charge the dogs. Back when the neighbor's young Weimaraner was in the process of acquiring her horse smarts, I would help that horse out with the air pistol.

Like BB pellets, air pellets won't hurt the the dog's butt.

Also if there's no back porch or laundry room to put the dog when nobody's home, tie it up so it doesn't get to chasing the horses when nobody's around.
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post #17 of 28 Old 06-05-2013, 02:02 AM
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I think the problem here, began because the dog HAS been allowed to chase horses in the past without being stopped. Stands to reason that he thought it ok and then it escalated. So I'd want to ask, exactly how much real training has the dog had? I'd bet little. Dogs - all dogs, should be obedience trained. If they are around other animals, then they must be trained until they are rock-solid, on recall and down/stay.

Anything else risks the life of the dog, when he is one day kicked by an unhappy horse.

Anyone not willing to train, should not own dogs.

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post #18 of 28 Old 06-05-2013, 02:37 AM
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Personally I am a dog and a horse lover so it would kill me to see either one of them hurt! If I couldnt get it under control I would not let the dog around the horses... Id say you are very lucky that neither of them has been hurt thus far. My mare is totally fine with dogs but she hates being barked at and has kicked a hole through a fence where my dog was barking at her (although he usually only barks at her when she is being bad). However it is important to keep them separated until you can get it under control. Sounds like the shock collar might me an only option. Or if you are against that what has worked great on my dogs is a spray bottle and when they do something bad I simply spray them in the face and they have learned pretty quicky but that might not be agressive enough depending on the dog.

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post #19 of 28 Old 06-05-2013, 08:19 AM
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Put the dog on a long leash, allow the horse to go free and let the dog chase it. Give a command not to do it and then when it doesn't stop haul it in and give it a darn good hiding.
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post #20 of 28 Old 06-05-2013, 08:33 AM
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I think the problem here, began because the dog HAS been allowed to chase horses in the past without being stopped.
I agree. The dog should not have gotten past the first day of trying to chase or bark before it was corrected. A trainer at a barn I worked for had a Corgi that would bark and nip at the horses she was turning out. She blamed it on "herding instinct" and never corrected it. One day, one of the geldings got fed up, wheeled around and snatched the dog up and tossed it across the driveway before the trainer could blink. Broke the dogs back and it had to be put down. If she had corrected the behavior or locked the dog up, she would still have her dog. She's darn lucky the dog didn't hurt a clients horse, or she would have lost her job and likely been sued.
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