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post #11 of 26 Old 09-27-2010, 01:50 PM
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Green horse is a green horse, that is. Even with experience it may be challenging. It's NOT flowers and butterflies as many people think, it's hard work every day, often disappointments, and good chance to be hurt (like when my yearling paint lost balance while I was working on picking her foot and fall on me (mostly on my foot). Unintentionally - no question on that, but I couldn't walk for 3 days). I'd say just find a barn with good trainer and productive lessons and start from there.



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post #12 of 26 Old 09-27-2010, 01:59 PM
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I paid her ONCE and would NEVER do it again, so now I just work off the lessons by feeding and helping out.

Its not just me she views as a waste of time, but others as well she'll pretend to be sick so she won't have to give a lesson, but she doesn't put that phone down.

I really don't want to leave I've learned so much from my friend and her husband I have a great time when I'm over there. I was looking to do a lease on a horse that would not cost me an arm and a leg which is how I met them. Plus there were the very few that offered western riding in my area.
Have you talked to her parents?

As long as you keep following the same old BS - it's going to keep getting shoveled on you.

The best situation may be to keep them as friends but take the business end of things elsewhere.
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post #13 of 26 Old 09-27-2010, 02:09 PM Thread Starter
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Ugh I know EXACTLY the type of person you are talking about. If I had to guess I would say she is probably between the age of 16-21 and thinks the world revolves around her, I have absolutely no time for people like that. (not saying all people of this age are like that, don't be offended everyone.)

I hope you can sort something out, sounds like you need a good solid horse to learn on and an instructor that is willing to give you all of their time and attention so that you can advance at a reasonable pace. Any chance of getting a different person to give you lessons?
Wow..you'd guess correctly, she's 17, I'm 24, I've been nice to her taken her to the store when she asked. Even when she's in her moods I'm always nice I don't like confrontation and will back down easy. There was another trainer before her (but apprently they had a disagreement apparently the trainer hurt the daughter's feelings or something) and she left. I don't think they would appreicate another trainer since the husband breaks horses (when he has time) and the daughter teaches lessons.

Speed Racer your post had me in tears its sounds just me, they push too hard which leads me getting off the horse and being scolded for it.
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post #14 of 26 Old 09-27-2010, 02:14 PM
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Speed Racer your post had me in tears its sounds just me, they push too hard which leads me getting off the horse and being scolded for it.
Which is why you need a professional trainer, my dear.

Friends and business rarely mix well. If you want to stay friends with these people that's all well and good, but you need to leave the business end of learning about horses to someone who actually does it as their livelihood.

Too many people have been turned off horses by the reasons you've described. You don't deserve to be treated as if you're a coward, just because you have the good sense to NOT want to do things before you're ready.
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Well I'm glad there's no shame in being labeled a "coward" to which I have been called. I don't want to be turned off because I like horses ( was getting to that point), but everyone is right it looks like I will have to move on yet again.

How do you go about finding a "professional" trainer? There are so many places to chose from.

MLS her parents know she can be "evil" as they put it, but they don't have have a clue as to how far deep it goes. Again I don't say anything.
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post #16 of 26 Old 09-27-2010, 03:08 PM
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How do you go about finding a "professional" trainer? There are so many places to chose from.
Google first. You can find feedback sometime. Look at the trainer's achievements (any shows, wins, successful students), ask for referrals. Look how horses look like in barn - friendly, well cared, etc. And even then you don't click with any person. You may have to try several places before you find the one you really like. Never know!



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post #17 of 26 Old 09-27-2010, 04:25 PM
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Long story short I am new to horse and am very green. Rode a couple of times on and off for about 4 years at the walk. I ride at a friends place she has about 20 horses and her daughter teaches lessons. Most of the horses there are over fed and underworked if that makes sense.

I rode a "beginner" horse they had for a while, he's good at building confidence on the ground and I trust him( thanks to her dad), he's just completely lazy and unmotivated. I've been riding him for about a year with no progress past a trot and this is barely staying on. Not to mention I'm still nervous about horses other than him.

I've taken a few lessons with the daughter but I don't feel like she's engaged enough. Unless she lunges me she's messing around on the phone texting or talking with other borders. The talking with borders doesn't bother me it helps relax me but the phone thing does. Also she has a very bad habit of talking down to me. Like I said I am new to horses so when a horse "acts" out I don't know what to do, (but I don't panic), however I don't like to hear "move out of the way" or "what are you doing give me that."

She's not really a big fan of ground work, and believes most of the time should be spent in a saddle, though there are no wet blankets. Needless to say there are horses that run me over when I lead them or lagging so far behind I feel like I'm pulling them. So I get yelled at by her because I am not correcting them, well if I knew what to do I wouldn't have this problem and yelling certianly doesn't help. Usually the correction ends up in some form of aggression, I understand that it is necessary when the time comes for it, but not all the time.

I like to spend time with horses and enjoy them, not rush to ride. I would love to own one but don't have the money to care for one. I like the place going out there because I learn a lot from my friend and her husband, but her daugther I just can't get over.

An event that happened yesterday was the last straw I've had with the daughter. It just made me feel like crap and made me question about riding anymore. I love horses and have a burning passion to become a better rider and work my up to cantering for the first time in life. However I don't trust the horses well enough to do anything.

There's one horse that I like in particular that is green broke. I just feel in my heart and in my mind that if I just worked with that horse the way I want to, I would be able to build a trusting relationship and that my confidence would improve. I want to ask but I am scared to. I know my friend will say yes since the horses belong to her but then I would have to deal with issues with her daughter and her single-minded "training"

Do you think this is a good idea? I have been looking at some of CA stuff for about a little more over a year and feel confident enough to at least attempt it with this particular horse.
First off, you need to find an actual trainer. Obviously working with your daughter is not only not turning into a good training experience, but working with family-in your situation does not work well. You need to find an actual trainer and work with him/her with both basic handling and riding.

As for horse ownership-it's of the most expensive hobbies you could ever get into. It will require a lot of time and will financially be very demanding. You will need to plan for basic health care needs, you will need to have money set aside for emergencies, you will nee to have money each month for board and you will definitely need lessons.

From the sounds of it, you are fairly new to horses and definitely need to learn basic horse handling before you could even be let alone with even a veteran. I definitely don't recommend a green horse for a confidence booster-VERY BAD IDEA.

My advise to you, is go find a trainer who will teach all about horses the proper way, and when you have more experience in a couple years, then look into getting your first horse. Until then I definitely would not be looking into owning one.
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post #18 of 26 Old 09-27-2010, 04:43 PM
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I learned the basics of everything on the most push-button pony out there. I then fell in love with this fancy little welsh in a field (at the same barn). I begged and begged to ride him and finally my trainer allowed me. But this pony had put me through SO many fences, jumps and dirt. I was only about 12 at the time, but i was tougher then he was and i think that's why my trainer trusted that i was ready. I wish i could get some of the videos from our old shows, he tossed me every chance he got. But i've got a large amount of confidence and riding ability due to this pony. He turned out to be absolutely amazing at that..
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First off, you need to find an actual trainer. Obviously working with your daughter is not only not turning into a good training experience, but working with family-in your situation does not work well. You need to find an actual trainer and work with him/her with both basic handling and riding.

As for horse ownership-it's of the most expensive hobbies you could ever get into. It will require a lot of time and will financially be very demanding. You will need to plan for basic health care needs, you will need to have money set aside for emergencies, you will nee to have money each month for board and you will definitely need lessons.

From the sounds of it, you are fairly new to horses and definitely need to learn basic horse handling before you could even be let alone with even a veteran. I definitely don't recommend a green horse for a confidence booster-VERY BAD IDEA.

My advise to you, is go find a trainer who will teach all about horses the proper way, and when you have more experience in a couple years, then look into getting your first horse. Until then I definitely would not be looking into owning one.
No offense, but if you read the post, you could see that, she is SO not my daughter. Not to mention I am in college and have so many things going for me right now than getting preggers, lol.

Also I NEVER wanted to own a horse, that was why I opted for leasing. I don't have that type of money for equine care. I have some common sense maybe not good judgement....
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Just Paint-where are you in Va? I have finally found a place to ride western in NOVA, they do have lessons, and I will even be moving my horse there for the winter. Yes, western is REALLY hard to find, but these are good accredited instructors, and may be a good place for you to look at. Not a fancy barn, by any means, but an indoor, and the horses are well taken care of.
After many years of riding english,(about 40, minus the break to have kids) I decided to change, and had no clue western barns were so hard to find. I have also found a couple that are too far for me, but may fit for you.

You shop, eat and drink with friends, and do business with professionals. This twit will get you hurt OR she will totally sour you on something that you may truly enjoy.

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