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post #11 of 20 Old 09-22-2013, 01:32 PM
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I was liking the electric fence idea but I guess you have limited options with it. If you can get it running along the trouble spots (eg behind the trespassing mother's house) that may work even though the whole thing is not done.

With regard to confronting the mother, I know who you feel. Perhaps take someone with you when you go to talk with her (a couple of cops would be nice). They can act as support for you and witness to what was said. I also like the idea of a registered letter (can you do double registered so you have evidence it was given to her?).

Start building your evidence so if things get nasty you can present proof rather than the old 'he said she said' scenario. I know everyone hates doing this as it goes against the grain as to how they'd like to be treated but if these people are behaving like that they are not your friends. Take pictures of the little culprits up to no good; heck, if you're going to warn them off I'd carry a video camera and record yourself doing that (remember to stay professional - calm voice, clear instructions and no swearing).

I'd even give a call to child welfare/protective services and have a chat with them. Let them know you've asked them to stay away for their own safety and more importantly you've said that to the mother as well and since she is ignoring your advice she is not parenting the children to ensure their safety and you are concerned about this.

I truly hope it all works out for you. I'd like to hear how it all shakes out. Best of luck.
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post #12 of 20 Old 09-22-2013, 01:40 PM
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I don't know how the law is in your country, so first I think you have to know if you are liable if the kids get hurt (in my country it would depend on the kind of fence..)

If your talk with the mother doesn't go well, you should go to your police office and tell them you are seriously concerned about the kids and what can you do about it, or if at least you can prove that you did all in your power to avoid accidents, so if the girls do get hurt it's their business.
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post #13 of 20 Old 09-22-2013, 01:40 PM
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Just one quick second comment, KatieQ: You mentioned the owners don't like signs - I should think since the horses are on their property that they should protect themselves from potential liability issues as well and therefore should support use of signs. If you use this rationale, they may agree to it.
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post #14 of 20 Old 09-22-2013, 02:04 PM
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I would talk to the property owners about what has been happening as well. I'm sure once they are aware of your concerns and the liabilities this family is causing, they will allow you to post signs.

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post #15 of 20 Old 09-22-2013, 02:05 PM
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I would be doing everything I could to protect myself from potential liability, since these folks are choosing to ignore your pleas for their safety. I would be putting up signs AND sending registered letters to ALL of the neighbors letting them know you will not be liable. Make sure you get return receipts for the letters for your records.
I would also let the owner of the property know-by talking to them first, but would also tell them I would be sending a registered letter to them to cover my own butt....and I would make sure I had my own liability insurance, which I always carry anyways. I like my house and prefer to remain in it.

The other ideas are also good-notifying cops, cameras (along with signs saying you have them)....Good luck. This is the exact reason I have refused to board at places that are surrounded by suburban cul de sacs.

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post #16 of 20 Old 09-22-2013, 02:19 PM
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Could you put up a simple single strand electric inside the real fence with step in posts? That way you don't have to modify the fencing/etc but can still have that deterrent? I'd make sure it was nice and HOT too!
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post #17 of 20 Old 09-23-2013, 09:32 AM Thread Starter
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I have talked to the property owners, and they agreed I might have to post signs. I do have liability insurance through the Horse Council, but will have to look into how it works if, for example my horses break out. My other concern is that these people are teaching them to lean over the fence looking for treats.
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post #18 of 20 Old 09-23-2013, 09:49 AM Thread Starter
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Also, these children are homeschooled and seem VERY spoiled. The mother seems very entitled (from the message she left, and also from what the property owners told me). She once "insisted" they should sell her the field because they were no longer using it, and they found her extremely pushy. So she obviously has some money, which also makes me nervous about talking to her, etc. because she no doubt has a good lawyer as well. Her occupation leads me to think she is trying to raise these girls in a "magical fairy-tale world", so the horses fit right in with that. Until one of them gets bitten, kicked or trampled, that is.
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post #19 of 20 Old 09-23-2013, 10:00 AM
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All the more reason to protect yourself with letters, signs, fences etc. Documentation is your friend! Don't let her intimidate you-she puts her panties on just like the rest of us. One leg at a time. Push right back, but do it in writing.
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post #20 of 20 Old 09-23-2013, 03:21 PM
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... So she obviously has some money, ...
There you go -- sue her for ruining your horses and the rehab costs to get them back to where they were before
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