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post #1 of 23 Old 05-18-2013, 10:17 PM Thread Starter
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Normal behavior while introducing two horses...

Okay so, I just brought home my horse Kismet on Thursday, and I'm not sure what's normal behavior and what's not..

My other horse Tiger is 20 yrs old, and has been at my house for about 8 years. I've never brought a mare in with him before, but he has had two other geldings with him on and off for the last couple of years (they actually live in the pasture that borders one of Tiger's, they belong to my cousin and are not in with him now) and he was always good with them, never acted aggressive or anything.

Kismet is my 6 yr old mare that I got a month ago, and she is an extremely laid back and calm horse.

Anyways, I figured they would be fine together, but now I'm not so sure..

He keeps charging at her with his ears pinned back, they are separated by a fence, and this morning she wheeled around and double barrel kicked the fence.. Not hard, it did nothing to the fence and I watched her for a while to make sure she wasn't sore, but I figured after that he would stop.. But he hasn't.. Any time she comes up to him he pins his ears and kind of lunges at her. She usually squeals and stomps her feet or kind of kicks out.

I'm just not sure where to go from here.. I let her out in the pasture bordering his today, and any time she would come near him he would do that.

To me, it looks like he's trying to establish dominance over her, she acts like the submissive one. But I'm afraid to let them out together, I don't want either of them hurt. I'm not sure where to go from here..

I've never introduced two horses, so I just need some advice/opinions :) Thank you!

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post #2 of 23 Old 05-18-2013, 10:31 PM
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Theyre both alpha horses.

If she was the submissive horse shed run off and squat when he chased her.

youre right- hes tryin to make her submit-- she aint havin it.
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Can you run some hot tape just out from the fence on both sides to avoid any injuries while they get used to each other? May take awhile for them to settle down.
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Theyre both alpha horses.

If she was the submissive horse shed run off and squat when he chased her.

youre right- hes tryin to make her submit-- she aint havin it.

Sorry, she does run away. I left that part out, it's been a long day ;) She'll usually squeal and run away, but she's stomped her feet a few times.

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Can you run some hot tape just out from the fence on both sides to avoid any injuries while they get used to each other? May take awhile for them to settle down.
Maybe, I actually didn't think about that. This morning when she kicked at him was the only time I've seen her do it, and she usually just goes away from him.

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My mare is very dominant and will be the crap out of any new horse she meets if they don't immediately show submission upon introduction. It goes on for a day or two until everything is pretty well set in stone, then they go about their business doing horse stuff. Once in a while, someone needs a reminder of their place in the hierarchy, but meh.

In fact, today she decided two new boarder ponies that arrived this morning needed to know their place with her. She and my other horse were separated just because they're leaving the barn tomorrow afternoon. She repeatedly charged the gate separating her from the ponies and kicked at it enough to get it completely off its hinges. (Luckily I happened to be right by when that happened).

Conclusion: Let them figure out their herd order themselves. It might take a few days of getting to know each other and there will be bumps and bruises from it, but unless your gelding is repeatedly cornering the mare and double barreling her constantly, I wouldn't worry about it.
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My mare is very dominant and will be the crap out of any new horse she meets if they don't immediately show submission upon introduction. It goes on for a day or two until everything is pretty well set in stone, then they go about their business doing horse stuff. Once in a while, someone needs a reminder of their place in the hierarchy, but meh.

In fact, today she decided two new boarder ponies that arrived this morning needed to know their place with her. She and my other horse were separated just because they're leaving the barn tomorrow afternoon. She repeatedly charged the gate separating her from the ponies and kicked at it enough to get it completely off its hinges. (Luckily I happened to be right by when that happened).

Conclusion: Let them figure out their herd order themselves. It might take a few days of getting to know each other and there will be bumps and bruises from it, but unless your gelding is repeatedly cornering the mare and double barreling her constantly, I wouldn't worry about it.
Yeah, I'm definitely letting them work it out. I don't want to get in between them. But I just wasn't sure when to let them out together.. Some people have told me to wait a little longer, and some have told me to just do it now.

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two reasons:
1. They are deciding who will be the alpha horse, boss horse, etc.
2. it's a mare with a gelding. I think that might explain some too. Especially if the gelding hasn't really been around mares, the mare can get moody and the gelding could get upset or something.

We introduced our new horse as well. We separated the two alphas and the two bottom horses.
Chocoalte (our new horse) has always been the bottom of the totem pole, and so has golley. They both enjoy and like being on the bottom, so they got into a few squeals and rears because they both want to be on the bottom, but they dont want both of them to be the lowest of the totem pole.
lol, it was pretty funny. I can hear the conversation now...
Golley: I was here first, you be the bottom.
Chocolate: but I am new here, you be the top horse!
G: no fair I have always been the bottom!
C: but I want to be! my old pasture buddy let me be the bottom!
G: well, thats too bad... I am going to be the bottom!!!
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two reasons:
1. They are deciding who will be the alpha horse, boss horse, etc.
2. it's a mare with a gelding. I think that might explain some too. Especially if the gelding hasn't really been around mares, the mare can get moody and the gelding could get upset or something.

We introduced our new horse as well. We separated the two alphas and the two bottom horses.
Chocoalte (our new horse) has always been the bottom of the totem pole, and so has golley. They both enjoy and like being on the bottom, so they got into a few squeals and rears because they both want to be on the bottom, but they dont want both of them to be the lowest of the totem pole.
lol, it was pretty funny. I can hear the conversation now...
Golley: I was here first, you be the bottom.
Chocolate: but I am new here, you be the top horse!
G: no fair I have always been the bottom!
C: but I want to be! my old pasture buddy let me be the bottom!
G: well, thats too bad... I am going to be the bottom!!!

Lol, horses dont want to be the submissive horse- theyre fighting to be alpha over one another.
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Lol, horses dont want to be the submissive horse- theyre fighting to be alpha over one another.
Not always true with a true submissive. My horse has never fought for that ever. He's a wuss.
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