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post #31 of 40 Old 11-17-2010, 04:14 PM Thread Starter
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Well meaning people often make the worst mistakes. I'm sure the people that did that felt awful. What I wonder is why the rescue chose to keep her alive rather than end her suffering. Her vet bills ran several thousand dollars. How many horses could have been helped with that money? This is the problem I have with rescues. They used this horses story to raise money and stroke thier egos.
I agree completely. Although I'm sure there is a goodly amount of pain medication that can be given in this case this filly wasn't JUST burned - she was horribly emaciated. It bugs me that they use this type of horse as a poster child for equine resiliance and will to live without any consideration for quality of life. 3 YEARS is a darn long time to bring something back around.

I can't justify saving an animal unless its with minimal pain and suffering. My cat got hit by a car, and the vet said she could try to save him but his whole little body was busted up. I said no way, even though he was young. I could not justify spending thousands of dollars to keep my cat in agony for months with little chance of even surviving.

Great she pulled through, but it all boils down to anthromorphising animals again which we're so good at.
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post #32 of 40 Old 11-17-2010, 04:40 PM
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"Great she pulled through, but it all boils down to anthromorphising animals again which we're so good at."

I don't know if it's anthropomorphising, or a lack of business sense. I do know it's my one big gripe with most rescues. They always want money and they have no one on board to help them prioritize the spending. You see it over and over again, the spending of thousands on an animal that can never be adopted out for anything other than a pasture pet or whose condition is so bad that they end up having to euthanize anyhow.

I raise horses and I breed one or 2 everyother year. When I have a sick horse, I look at it from several points of view. Can this animal be saved? If yes, will he or she be completely sound when I'm done? Will there be lingering pain? How OLD is the animal in question? If I spend XXXX on this one today and another gets sick or injured tomorrow, can I afford to give the same level of care to that one?

So, in my case, if my 32 yo gelding colics tomorrow (touching wood he never does), what will I do? I'll euthanize him. $175 approximately to see he has a humane end vs $10,000 plus for surgery that may or may not kill him anyway.......AND! If one of my younger show horses colicked day after tomorrow, I couldn't afford to spend that money twice.

Do I love my 32 y.o. any less? Absolutely not. I have had him for 30 years, I probably love him MORE than any of my others. It boils down to quality of life vs quantity of life and prioritization of resources.

I'm not saying don't rescue by any means, I have rescued and I will again. I'm just saying don't let your heart rule your head to the detriment of other horses that may or may not yet be currently in your care.

If there was a way to make the ofal that did this to her pay, I'd be all for spending 5X what the rescue spent, just to see these people utterly ruined.

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post #33 of 40 Old 11-17-2010, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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Mmm, I'd almost disagree though. It's actually decent business sense, and only BECAUSE people are so **** good at anthropomorphising animals. I bet dollars to donuts the rescue didn't spend a penny on this mare, because pictures like that "sell". They even state in the blog they're doing a campaign to get more donations because now that she's "better", her sponsor is dropping her. So they're sending those horrific pictures out to encourage people to whip out the cash.

I would never accuse anyone who helped this mare of "using" her, but it's the human need to anthropomorphise that gives them the funding to spend 3 years of money on a mare that should have been humanely put to sleep.

I am all for rescues, but I agree fully with you, a rescue SHOULD be a horse that you can spend money on returning to function. Unfortunately, it's a lot more difficult to convince people to donate to the cause of a skinny bay Thoroughbred lesson horse who doesn't have a story of woe, but is going to be super easy to rehabilitate and has a ton to offer.

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post #34 of 40 Old 11-17-2010, 08:19 PM
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Saw this recently and it makes me really mad. Not queasy though, which is a plus for my future vet career path! Anyone know what her sentence was?
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post #35 of 40 Old 11-17-2010, 08:43 PM Thread Starter
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Saw this recently and it makes me really mad. Not queasy though, which is a plus for my future vet career path! Anyone know what her sentence was?
As far as I'm aware, and from Fugs blog, nobody knows who the owners are and I would imagine therefore no charges were laid. A story like this would go viral REALLY fast.

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post #36 of 40 Old 11-17-2010, 11:34 PM
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If you have any idea where this took place specifically, you can check www.pet-abuse.com and it lists a lot of cases that have been filed and whether they were convicted, sentenced etc.

The woman who got all of the horses seized which included my mare was there...first she did it with dogs, then moved on to horses...

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post #37 of 40 Old 11-17-2010, 11:38 PM
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Not only that but, frequently if the horse is voluntarily relinquished, rather than AC having to go through the legal hoops to seize it then Law Enforcement doesn't get involved. It's the steel fist in the velvet glove trick, "If you'll give me your horse I'll rehab her and I won't call the sheriff and see about getting Animal Cruelty charges laid against you.".

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post #38 of 40 Old 11-17-2010, 11:54 PM
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Yep...but I was glad to hear that the lady who did that to my horse and the 40-some others apparently spent time in jail!

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post #39 of 40 Old 11-18-2010, 01:12 AM
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Crazy.

I'm so busy, I don't know if I've found a rope... or lost my horse...
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post #40 of 40 Old 11-20-2010, 09:22 PM
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Oh that poor horse! That story made me tear up.
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