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post #11 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 05:21 PM
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The contract was not signed by the owner, I never even thought about it. It is completely useless now, how could I have been so stupid! And part of the contract includes proper care including adequate shelter and so if she really sees the shelter as inadequate then I am breaking the already useless contract. The winters here are fairly harsh, well below freezing with some pretty heavy snow some years, and I would never keep her somewhere where I don't think she'd have enough protection, but I really do believe she will be okay. The other three mares live out 24/7 and hardly use the run in except for shade in the summer!
I would ask her to wait it out and see how she adjusts. Assure her that if she isn't comfortable and healthy come winter you will make other arrangements if needed. If they have a wind break and lots of hay they are ok outside. Access would be nice in the extreme weather and maybe during those days of the year you could mover her to a stall.
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post #12 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 05:26 PM Thread Starter
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I think you are out of luck with the contract... There are plenty of other horses out there, don't set your heart on one :). Don't take this to court and tear apart your family. I know you love this horse but maybe there will be an option for you to ride Sophie without having to own her. Does that sound like an option? I know I sound cruel but please take me into consideration.
I know you're right, but I just can't let her go that easily. Especially since I know that know matter what her owner thinks the care at her new barn is much much better. And as for riding her, she will let me but I would almost always be riding alone which besides being dangerous just seems sad because with my trainers help we've already made so much progress and I know we will lose it if she leaves and has to sit in the field for weeks between rides. I've just had so many horses I loved taken from me, lesson horses and training projects who were sold or died and I just can't believe I may lose Sophie. I love her more than I've loved any horse and I've learned so much from her. She's my best friend and has been for a year now.
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post #13 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 05:29 PM
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If you love her so much, then I suggest fighting for her :). I suggest you follow everyone else's advice. I'm sure with time she'll come around. As long as you explain it to her clearly what is happening, and give her proof. With time she should come around. Good luck :).
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post #14 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 05:30 PM
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I know you're right, but I just can't let her go that easily. Especially since I know that know matter what her owner thinks the care at her new barn is much much better. And as for riding her, she will let me but I would almost always be riding alone which besides being dangerous just seems sad because with my trainers help we've already made so much progress and I know we will lose it if she leaves and has to sit in the field for weeks between rides. I've just had so many horses I loved taken from me, lesson horses and training projects who were sold or died and I just can't believe I may lose Sophie. I love her more than I've loved any horse and I've learned so much from her. She's my best friend and has been for a year now.
Why don't you purchase a horse so you don't have these heartaches?
A pasture pet like Sophie are fairly easy to come by and inexpensive. You might even consider a rescue and get a nice horse for very little money. If you take your time a rescue sometimes gets some nice purebred(may not have papers) broke horses that have been abused and when brought back to their glory are nice.
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post #15 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
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I would ask her to wait it out and see how she adjusts. Assure her that if she isn't comfortable and healthy come winter you will make other arrangements if needed. If they have a wind break and lots of hay they are ok outside. Access would be nice in the extreme weather and maybe during those days of the year you could mover her to a stall.
That was my first response, but it didn't make her any happier. I'll just have to talk to her again when she's had time to think and see if we can work something out. I doubt I'll even sleep until this is resolved :(
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post #16 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 05:37 PM
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Maybe ask your BO to speak to Sophies (previous) owner.

My mare is bottom of the pecking order in a herd situation but has never been hurt or injured because of it - it's just normal animal behaviour - if Sophie was a dominant mare, she'd probably have a few injuries by now fighting with the other mares in the herd.

I'd maybe see if you could offer her money for Sophie and have a proper bill of sale drawn up (do you have her passport or do you not need them where you're from) - she's probably worried for her horse and although she had offered her to you, just wants what she feels is best - hopefully the visits will start to lessen and you'll be left in peace.

Could your parents speak to her - it's all new at the moment, and probably when things settle down, hopefully she'll see that you're the best thing for Sophie.

Good luck - i hope it all works out for you xx
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post #17 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
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Why don't you purchase a horse so you don't have these heartaches?
A pasture pet like Sophie are fairly easy to come by and inexpensive.
I could never afford to buy a horse of Sophie's quality, she is not the type of horse that is meant to be a pet. the owner was very lucky and got her cheap as a greenie from a friend, but a horse like her could easily sell for 20k. Another reason why I don't want to let her go sit around in the owners field until she dies. she loves her job and gets bored doing nothing.
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post #18 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 07:02 PM
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It sounds like the previous owner is just having a hard time giving her up. While my barn has lots of shelter.. even in the worst of weather the horses just turn their butts to the wind and stand there. I suspect the previous owner is not used to herd dynamics- someone has to be at the bottom ( in my case it is my boy!) Horses know how it goes. They are not standing there saying " nobody likes me! " like a person would. Assure the previous owner that she observed a small moment in time- which is true. Probably 90% of the time your horse is happy and content and getting along great with the herd.
If she insists on taking her back, absolultely get your money back from the vet. How can she worry about shelter, but never cared about shots and teeth and the horses mental health ( they are herd animals after all ) And it would be a shame for her to ruin the relationship she has with you over this... good luck!
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post #19 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 07:15 PM
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How was the previous owner's pasture set up? Did Sophie have a shelter? Did she use it?

I agree with having your BO talk to the previous owner (if she won't listen to you) and see if she'll agree to letting her settle in and seeing if things change.
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post #20 of 38 Old 09-29-2013, 07:46 PM
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I would allow her to come pick up Sophie once you have been reimbursed for the board and vet care you have given her. Make up an invoice for the old owner and tell her you expect payment before she can pick up the horse. It sucks that your parents didn't help you with this before it got to this point. Minors can't sign contracts and your parents would have the experience to know you need a bill of sale, etc. It's a crappy situation and they should have been there to help you.

If I were in this situation I would pay for stall board for two or three months until the old owner is satisfied and quits checking up on her. Then she can return to her previous arrangements.
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