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post #1 of 9 Old 05-31-2013, 09:35 PM Thread Starter
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Owning two horses? I can see this going so wrong so fast

This is kind of a vent thread to sort things out in my head but your opinions are also appreciated.

I have one horse, I have owned this particular horse since mid-March, I moved to my current barn a month before that. I would say I am an-almost-maybe experienced horse owner for my age. I am sixteen and have had my own horse since seven, I wouldn't say I am good enough to have my own horses on my own property but I feel I am a safe and knowledgeable owner in my barn full of horse people that can help me if there was ever an emergency. I also have an instructor for guidance and help. Alright enough back story.

Yesterday I was informed that my instructor was leaving. Leaving today. She can still instruct me but she is taking her horse to a new barn that has different rules. This would be fine, except my almost-sister* doesn't have her own horse and was using the instructor's horse in the lesson and would be able to use him whenever me and her wanted to ride together or go on a trail or play horse soccer or whatever. Now she can't.

My almost-sister* has been riding for a year and you can see in another thread I have on here she has been interested and half-looking for a horse for a while. Now that Joker is leaving she looked into part-boarding another horse at the barn but there aren't any available. So she wants to get a horse to continue with me. BUT she has no money and no job.

My dad decided to strike a deal with her because he loves her to the point where she is almost his favorite child. (not his child) He has offered to buy a horse and pay its boarding and she can part board it and pay a fraction of its boarding so I still have someone to ride with.

I have ALWAYS wanted a second horse, just for the convenience. I have a lot of people come out and ride with me and it is just so hard with one horse, also my mom loves riding and would love to do it with me but she doesn't want to steal my 'thing' so she won't touch my horse in fear of it bonding with her instead of me. SO a second horse in the family would be awesome.

I can just see sooooo many things going wrong though.... Like what if me and my almost-sister get into a massive fight and my parents still technically own her horse, or what if her family (history of money troubles) decides one day that the part boarding fee is too much and we suddenly have to pay the full boarding for two horses (My family isn't exactly poor and could still comfortably handle that, it would just be inconvenient) Or what if she gets a horse she can't control or gets fed up with (of course she still has help from everyone in the barn and our instructor for help with that) or she gets a horse that beginners can't handle. Then I would be in the same position of having only one horse for my friends to ride. We are going to college in two years what is my mom going to do with two horses by herself then?

She plans to buy the horse off of us as soon as she has a job or gets out of high school, and she is going to post-secondary school for a career with horses. Take a cookie if you read all of that. opinions welcome.

*almost-sister - best friend, we almost adopted her last summer (like we had the papers but her mom backed out at the last minute) she spends her entire life with horses but we are her only connection to them so she spends all her time with us. She has a room in our house and has lived with us for months at a time.

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post #2 of 9 Old 05-31-2013, 10:05 PM
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Well, the smart thing would be to make it VERY clear in the contract that she is only free leasing the horse until she has enough saved up until she can afford to pay the purchase price / board. This contract should be signed by her and her parents if she is a minor.
As long as she understands that the horse isn't hers until it's paid for and she is only titled as a leasee, I don't see a problem.
There is no way I would do a half board thing. I would do a lease, where the leasee pays for the care that regular horse would require - board, feed, trims, shots, etc. If they can't handle that, that's a big wake up call.
I would assume that if your parents are buying the horse initially, they would look for something that is safe for beginners and reliable.
If she goes out and buys her own horse, I would hope she brings someone with more experience with her to evaluate horses. However, if she purchases on her own then that's sort of her own thing to deal with if she gets a bad horse.

However, if you haven't, I would voice all of these concerns to your parents as well. How do they feel about taking care of your horse while you are away at college? Is that fine? Two may be as well.
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thanks. We (me, my mom, and possibly the instructor) will be going with her when she is purchasing. I will now make sure that all the parties involved know exactly what we are doing and what the situation is so that it is really clear.
And for college the plan was to sell my mom my gelding and then buy him back from her after school when I have the money, I am not sure how that would work with two but I will ask. Worst case scenario if owning two is too much work she can lease the second out right?
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My views, take em or leave em.

Her "bonding" with your horse is of little issue in my opinion.

Having two horses is a good idea, if, you really ride a lot.

I don't know a serious barrel racer or roper that doesn't have a back up horse. Or at least one in traning that can be used in a pinch. And a lot of the backups are kept in shape by someone else.

Sooooo, maybe get ya a back up, she can ride and exercise, with the option to buy. Other then that, money between friends causes trouble.
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Sounds very complicated. However if it is to be her horse then she has to chose. If it is chosen for her then she may come to resent it if the horse begins to play up which they often do for a while after the honeymoon period.

Good luck with it though

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post #6 of 9 Old 06-01-2013, 08:26 AM
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I would look at it from the view it is your family's horse and she is the leasee with option to purchase in the future. Put it in contract and keep it simple. And your family should only do it if they are comfortable covering all of the costs if she has to back out of the lease or are willing to sell if that should happen. It should be looked at as a business transaction to minimize future issues.

I would also put some requirements that if your family is purchasing the horse it needs to meet some requirements - i.e. beginner safe, etc. So that it will be of the best use to her and your family. It sounds like at this point she really should get something close to beginner safe anyways.

A second horse that you can use as well could be a good thing. You just never know what may happen to your own horse that puts them out of riding for a while. My husband's horse had a hoof injury last summer that put him out of riding a couple months while it healed. Totally sucked not having a back-up horse that he could use and go riding with which is why we ended up shuffling around some horses and now have a really nice back-up horse that either of us could use.

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It sounds like you have a pretty awesome family!

As long as you and your mom, and possibly your instructor, are going with her to try out horses, there shouldn't be much problem finding what she needs. Just make sure you give her an HONEST opinion on whether or not she can handle any given horse. Keep emotion out of the buying process.

I agree that the best way to proceed is to treat it as a lease. Money issues between friends can cause an issue, but only if you let it. You should be careful that any fight you may have in the future does not affect the horses, or your or her enjoyment of them.

I hope it all works out!

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I might have misunderstood your post, but it sounds as if she will be involved in the selection process. I would insist I was the only one that was involved in the selection process. For all intents and purposes it will be your horse and ultimately your responsibility. After I established that criterion for the future purchase - I would have fun shopping. :)

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[QUOTE=5Bijou5;2670721]thanks. We (me, my mom, and possibly the instructor) will be going with her when she is purchasing. I will now make sure that all the parties involved know exactly what we are doing and what the situation is so that it is really clear.

Your parents will be the purchasers. If there are questionable issues about safety, training, whatever, even if your friend "falls in love" with it, it is your parents decision to purchase. At any point, if she develops the "Well, it's my horse" attitude, I would put the brakes on. She will have the privilege of using the horse but she is not owner until she can hand over the dollars and take full financial responsibility.
This is a wonderful opportunity for her and a very generous thing for your parents to do...as long as she fully understands the boundries. I hope it goes well for all of you.
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