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post #11 of 16 Old 08-20-2013, 02:18 AM
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To make a fence goat proof, it dang near has to be water proof! Also goats arent much in the way of lawn mowers, the prefer browse. (Altho for reasons I have never understood they LOVE poison ivy.)Before they graze the grass, they will have eaten every leaf off of every tree and shrub, not to mention the bark. My friend Tom came home one time to a big ol' nanny Boer standing on the hood od his wife's car eating the convertible top!
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post #12 of 16 Old 08-20-2013, 07:49 AM
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Goats only eat grass when there is nothing worse to eat. They only eat grass as a last resort. Around here, they use them to clear brush. They mow through persimmons and willows like a brush hog. And Yes! They can crawl through a horse in a fence half as big as they are.

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post #13 of 16 Old 08-20-2013, 11:26 AM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
Google the words, 'horse barbed wire' and then tell me if it's not an issue. Just because it hasn't been an issue, doesn't mean it won't be. You can wire and electrify cheaply enough. Please cap your t posts, if you do this.

Your pasture does need to be cut.
I already stated above that I would be using Cherie's idea about the tape and I've known probably in the hundreds, plenty of horses kept in barb wire and have yet to see a single accident happen. Where I am from it's extremely common to keep horses behind barb wire, 99% of horses here are behind barb wire. I know better than to Google stuff lol of course the worst accidents are gonna pop up and I'm not a believer of scare tactics either. If you have something specific to add please do. Boots and Cherie both had very specific and valid points which I can respect. I feel like your just trying to force your opinion on me. And what works for one horse might not work for another. My horse has no issues with barb wire or any fencing. And again I am cutting the grass down as stated above as well. If you have an opinion to add please give some insight behind it. Why are you recommending these thing? Its kind of rude to come on here telling me what to do without so much as an explanation. So please enlighten me to why you feel the way you do. Thanks for your response and please don't think of me as rude I just prefer the reasons why so I can make an informed choice. Thanks again :)
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post #14 of 16 Old 08-20-2013, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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Yea I had goats in the past and decided I don't want that hassle lol they can be such pains in the you know where lol
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post #15 of 16 Old 08-22-2013, 12:39 PM
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Advice on anything considered dangerous for horse or rider can be considered a "scar tactic". The people who are advocating not to keep a horse behind barbed wire fences are giving warnings on what is and is not safe for a horse, just like they would with any other "controversial" subject. Just because hundreds of people do something doesn't make it right or smart. If you want specific examples of horses I have personally known who have almost died from barbed wire, I can give them, but I don't think you want to see those pictures.

In the end it's your horse and you will do what you want to do with it, but that isn't going to keep people from warning you against something dangerous.
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post #16 of 16 Old 08-22-2013, 01:17 PM
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Regarding the pasture, I agree with Cherie--brush hog it down to short. I don't know where you live in Oregon but I understand that your state has desert, rainforest and in-between. Where I live, in IL, you can graze 1 acre/1 horse/average rainfall.
MY suggestion is to contact your local land grant University Extension Office. They sit by the phone hoping to gush all of their knowledge about any sort of plants and agriculture to interested parties. I was on the phone for over an hour when I called the Univerisity of Illinois after I moved to the country and I just wanted to know whether to test my well water! They can tell you what toxic weeds are common to YOUR area, and what pasture grass does best, along with what weeds are tolerable... like dandelions, which my horses love.
The rest of us, NOT living in Oregon, can only offer you generic advice about YOUR land.
Regarding the barbed wire. IMO it is a problem bc you have multiple strands. Horses really work at getting themselves into accidents, so I like the hot strand solution. Get a pair of metal cutters, cut any wire off that is loose into < 3 ft pieces and throw it away in used 50 pound grain bags. Start immediately replacing your fencing. I'm not fond of wood fencing bc horses love to kick it, but it is safe. If you go that route, you must put in 8 in. diameter posts. I use a fence post AUGER. It looks like a giant-sized corkscrew and I put in a new fence line with this by myself the first summer we lived on this property. Wooden horizontal 2" x 8" wood sections need to put nailed/screwed to the INSIDE of the wooden posts. IF your horse kicks it, it breaks but stays up. If you put them on the outside a horse can kick it off and step through the fence.
You need to run the numbers, but steel or iron pipe fencing is also safe and you attach to wooden posts with brackets. Put THIS fencing on the outside of the fence posts. This is what I have (see left.)
I have lived on my 5 acre property since 1999. I have lots of projects that are in the middle and not finished. If you are new to the country, you'll find that this can be pretty normal, unlike living in a residential neighborhood with covenants. =b

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