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post #11 of 26 Old 05-26-2018, 01:36 PM
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Wow, what a great looking kiddy riding place and they know which ring to go into! Looks far better than those tiny hotwalkers many use instead.
The two pulling the cart look done with life, bored stiff. Thought the one was stuffed until it moved its leg, lol, didn't even see breathing from it.
But most of the riding ponies looked okay with their work.

Peta has lost its noodle. Little else to say on that.
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post #12 of 26 Old 05-26-2018, 01:47 PM
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I've no use for PETA and their hangers on. I'm in agreement with Avna, Foxhunter, Acadian Artist, and Joel.

@Kalraii There is an autistic rider at the barn I worked for in Virginia. The kid is fearless to the point of recklessness. Her father told me that when they were trying horses for her, she almost fell off of one. The horse maneuvered to get back under her. It happened again with the same horse. When they got back to the barn after that ride, he paid cash for the horse on the spot.
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post #13 of 26 Old 05-26-2018, 02:58 PM
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I suppose that if the ponies did not like doing their work, they would balk at it.
Ponies are very smart and have many ways of letting people know that they are so!

At my first riding school we had a lot of tourists in the summer, most were total novices. They horse's and ponies worked no more than 4 hours a day, even less really as that included mounting and dismounting. They trekked to the top of the Downs and back, the route did vary and more experienced riders did get taken off for a canter, the rest of the time it was just walking and trotting.

They did get bored, some more than others, so, those that were showing signs of objecting would remain at the stables after the day's work was done and we would take them down to the beach riding bareback. It meant a lot more work for them but it was fun. They could charge around, spook at the waves, get down in the sand and roll.

Some would pretend to buck or would put in a big spook, behaviour they never did with a novice and we would make their day by falling off them or rather pretending to fall.

After such a session they were happy to work with the novices.

At a Riding for the Disabled school they were having problems with some of the animals not doing what they were asked. I could see that they were mostly totally fed up and suggested that the helpers, most were riders, took them out for a 'good jolly' charging about the countryside, once or twice a week. Problem solved.
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post #14 of 26 Old 05-26-2018, 03:58 PM
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at some point, in the distant future, humans probably will have different relationships with animals, . . . those that survive.


But, I will continue to abuse and ride . I'm just kinda stubborn , that way.
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post #15 of 26 Old 05-26-2018, 04:14 PM Thread Starter
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When horses can no longer be ridden, they will become extinct. Which do you like better?

A friend at work who has never been on a horse asked me one day if horses like to be ridden. I told him my old horse likes to stand in his pasture and his old owner likes to sit as his desk, but when we get together we both seem to be having a good time.
A farm boy once told me dogs in the pasture such as dingo dogs can give horses good exercise so they don't become lazy. It probably gives the horses relief from boredom when dogs work them. It adds value to the dogs' lives too maybe.
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Wow, what a great looking kiddy riding place and they know which ring to go into! Looks far better than those tiny hotwalkers many use instead.
The two pulling the cart look done with life, bored stiff. Thought the one was stuffed until it moved its leg, lol, didn't even see breathing from it.
But most of the riding ponies looked okay with their work.

Peta has lost its noodle. Little else to say on that.
Hotwalkers, are those the whirligig things the ponies are bound to that go round in circles? That's how the San Francisco Zoo set up the pony rides I was on when I was five. Maybe those are a bit cruel. They might be used for safety considerations: children, ponies, injuries, liability lawsuits.

Yes, I felt sorry for those depressed/sickly looking cart horses standing in the sun.
I wish the ride attendants would look and act more presentable in their dress: decorum and demeanor.
I've been to carnivals and fairs were the amusement ride attendants (young punks) acted like total jerks.
Just hurriedly shoving people in ride seats like cattle in stock cars to the slaughterhouse.

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My horses have a tendency to amuse themselves with any dogs, foxes or coyotes that go in our fields to play - unfortunately unless the dog/fox/coyote is able to run a lot faster than the horse it rarely ends well for the them!!


We were close friends with a UK horse dealer that used to take ponies along to local fairs, church fetes etc to give rides to kids. They were always led, riders had to hold a neck rein not the actual reins and they only ever walked. Sure they were probably bored silly but they got treats and lots of fuss made of them, rest periods during the day in a shade area where they could eat. At the end of the day they went home and were turned out in a field - not a bad life when you compare it to waiting your turn in a kill pen or being starved and abused.

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You will find that any time you invoke PETA, the majority of people seriously involved in animal breeding, training, and keeping will label you as either na´ve person who has not done their homework, or a dangerous weirdo to be avoided at all costs.

I'm one of them, and due to your other posts, am consigning you to the first category and thinking you are just na´ve.
PETA is an organization of extremely dubious moral standing which has done incalculable damage to animals and to humans. They are truly horrible. Almost nothing they say is true. They are the terrorist arm of the ASPCA, which is no longer a humanitarian organization (unlike local SPCA's by the way).

That said, the question of the role of domestic animals, and our relationships with them, is always worth asking, in this age of an abyssal divide between enormous-scale industrialized animal production on one hand and the complete absence of all human-animal interactions other than household pets on the other.

Until just before yesterday, human beings interacted with all sorts of other animals, domestic and wild, on a constant basis. We lived with them, we ate them, used their eggs, skins, milk, we taught them things and they taught us, we used them, and they used us, we watched them -- and they watched us. Not any more. This weird anomalous state of being has given rise to such monstrosities as chickens which are all breast meat, cows which are milk factories for a couple years and then slaughtered, stockyards that pollute the air and water for square miles -- and PETA and its ilk.

Crazy crazy world.
^^^ Leave it to Avna to say what I want to say only much better

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PETA, and HSUS (which is basically PETA in a suit) want human relationships with animals ended, and they make no secret of it. They want a world with no pet dogs and cats, no domesticated horses, etc. They feel your pet dogs would be better off DEAD than enslaved and exploited living with you.... so yeah....

I was at a dog show where PETA released dogs from crates and poured antifreeze in water buckets. Thankfully none of my dogs were involved, but they were blatantly vocal that dogs dead from poisoning and hit by cars were far better off than loved, pampered, adored pets. PETA can go jump in a lake.
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I have never gotten that kind of impression from the Humane Society of America. They seem all about making pet ownership work for both parties involved.
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