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post #1 of 13 Old 01-19-2020, 02:33 PM Thread Starter
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I own it, i am addicted to YouTube! I love how I can be watching a crime video and within three changes come across something totally different!

So far I have come across Broncs and Doncs and recently Apache Cowboy.

I love the former because these folk obviously live a hard working life and like those I know who do the same, have a wicked sense of humour, laughing at the risks of life and loving every moment of it.

The latter I have only watched a few videos. Not sure what state they live but the countryside is harsh. Very little in the way of grass, mostly what looks like sage brush, yuccas and other scrub. Very stoney and dusty.

These men go out to capture unbranded cattle.

Now, what I see is pure and top class skill in roping, rarely do they get it wrong. They gallop over all the stones without a care, the horses know exactly what to do.

Once roped the beast is hog tied. Now, how the heck do they get it out of there? To rough for a vehicle.

The other thing is despite the lack of grass these beast look superb, not grossly fat but certainly not thin.

The horses must have feet of iron, most are shod but they don't seem to notice the stones.

Again, humour shines through.
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It depends.

Sometimes after being given time to lay in the dirt and ponder life, a bovine will be more amiable to go where directed.

Sometimes after being given time to lay in the dirt and ponder life, a bovine will still need to have a loop around it's horns or neck and need quite a bit of coaxing to go where needed.

But, never is an injured or dead bovine worth much money. The guys and gals that gather wild cattle are good at handling wild cattle.

I'll tell a story later. But, I'm off to check my non-wild bunch.
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Ok. Other than having to catch the odd grumbly cow, I only have one episode of helping chase wild cattle.

Was working for a good outfit when the rancher bought a long, skinny place of 18,000 acres. It went over two small mountains and was rough everywhere else. Lots of forest.

We started riding it, and he hired a crew of kids to pull all the fences. We started comparing notes and guessed there were 25-30 head of bovines out there that didn't belong to our boss. Young, old, male, female.

Told the boss. He wasn't surprised. Said the former owners didn't ride/check their cows and the last owner had hired a wild cow catcher several years before to clean up the place.

Crazy cow catcher was from California and that's all he did. Wait for ranchers to call, make a deal, do his job, and leave.

So crazy cow catcher shows up and husband and I tell him we'll act as support crew. Whatever he needs. Husband has done that work before, but not for so many, so fast.

Cow catcher says he's pretty well set but if we can gather all the ropes on the place he'd appreciate it.

We spent 12 days figuring out their habits and catching them. Hubby and cow catcher worked good together. I was definitely on support crew. If they got one, they'd stretch it out and I'd go put a crummy rope on it, and we'd snub it to a tree. We'd leave them overnight and come back and trail, or lead them, to a stock trailer. We couldn't use corrals because a) there were no good ones on the place, and b) the critters had wings!

I did catch one and was merely lucky it went well for the cow, the horse, and me.

It was fun picking which horses we took. Not our best tempered or the ones with the nicest gaits. A never quit attitude and seeming to know more about cattle than most people was valued.

We caught 27 and never saw anymore.
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Ever put a halter on one, tie one front leg up to it, and lead them in that way?
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Ever put a halter on one, tie one front leg up to it, and lead them in that way?
No. Work good?
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Like everything else, depends on who's doing it. One person reported it as a disaster. Two brothers that actually are old time real cowboys use it fairly often. It's sort of a fall back just in case, as I understood. It's slow as the cow can't walk very fast on three legs, but apparently depending on the circumstances, it becomes the choice.
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It was fun picking which horses we took. Not our best tempered or the ones with the nicest gaits. A never quit attitude and seeming to know more about cattle than most people was valued.
This reminded me of Rosie. She was a slightly ornery mare pulled out of a small wild herd in Florida and trained by my uncle.
When it was time to round the herd up the big quarter horses would hit the brakes and lose them but Rosie would go over through or under anything to follow them. Palmettos and swamp were her thing and the wild horses couldn’t shake her.

She worked the cattle too. Was heck to keep her in a fence but a great little horse who knew her job.
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We watch Apache Cowboy on YouTube too! (They are in Arizona)

We used to get water trapped cattle out of AZ sent to us for the summer along with the yearling steers out of Mexico. One spring the road was too muddy to get the cow trucks into the chute to unload so had to back the trucks across the cattle guard of the allotment and jump them off the back step. Those wild ones from AZ would fly off, sunfish and hit the mud 30 feet from the back of the truck and keep on running. We all looked at each and said, "see you in the fall!".
Those we had had to rope and load again in the fall some of those took us through the winter and the snow so we could track them before we could catch them again. Some of the steers from Mexico were that way too just depended on where they came from and if they took up with the wild AZ cattle.

Some of them had been chased so much they learn some neat tricks like laying under thick brush waiting for you to ride by then hop up and run the other direction. One my husband and went for after a fresh snow so we could track and not get away with his tricks, he finally got mad and rolled through a fence line. We loaded back up and headed up the road, hopped out and tracked him, got him roped in a clearing and then he was on the fight. Like boots said, a little dirt nap or snow nap and can change their attitude. We knocked him down on the ground if he wanted run up the rope to get after the horses. Too far out to bring the trailer and in most cases we didn't have that luxury so you teach them to lead. Cattle are pretty smart, smarter than people give them credit it for. You have them on a short rope, person can drive to help direct to tech him where he is supposed to be, if he is rude he runs into the end of the rope and feels the pressure or gets knocked down. If he stays were he is supposed to there is no pressure. They seek the release like a horse. We have led them out miles before we can get to a truck and trailer to get them loaded and usually by that time they load as good as a horse.

A few years ago we had a bizarre situation. We pastured a few hundred cows that had never been worked a horseback. Everything was done a foot or 4 wheeler. I could drive up to them with a pickup and walk up to them when I was checking windmills and putting out mineral but to try to gather them they scattered like a covy of quail. Most cattle if they want to run off like that you run along side of them(not trying to get in front of them and stop them) and start catching their eye, you can make the bubble smaller and pretty soon you can get a little handle on them and direct them. These you couldn't do that they came at you and would run under your horses neck. By the end of the fall we got a handle on most of them but the last load we had to rope and tie down them all and their calves. That is when I had my last big wreck that chilled me pretty good. I still don't remember what happened and the couple weeks after are pretty fuzzy. Hubby and friend roped almost all of them as I recovered from a concussion. On the last day hubby and friend said, "let's go last couple pairs, you gotta get in on this!" I wasn't cleared to ride yet but out we went. We roped and tied them down on that time we got the truck and trailer out there to get them loaded but barely made it as the mud started to thaw. We ended ripping a bunch of wiring out from under the truck lost some tools out the back, I hit my head several times on the cab we got them all.

Above a ranch we worked on there was a big chunk of land landlocked no one owned it. A bunch of wild cattle lived on it for years. Every once in awhile us or the neighbors would get cattle in on it. It was tough to get them out, willows, bogs, brush. A few years back a friend hired a helicopter and a few cowboys, hubby went to get them out. Friend in helicopter with a shotgun and a few guys a horseback they got them finally after years of escaping traps and being chased by everyone. They found a steer we had lost years before that he must of been 7 or 8. He weighed I think 2,400 pounds. He was so big and fat they couldn't tie his legs together.

Anyhow, enough of my stories and reminiscing...

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I was on an outfit that told me to watch for five cows, just cows, that had escaped gather for two years. Their calves would get picked up but not the moms, and they seemed fine with this.

They were good at hiding in brush, and I have no idea how many times I rode by them and didn't see them.

A few times I did see them, but they would scatter so quick I couldn't move them. Five cows can go in six directions. I've seen it.

Finally came upon them all shaded up in the fall. In a very narrow, brushy draw. I rode past to the top of the draw, turned, and started shooting and yelling like an insane person.

They didn't scatter and I got them into an easier pasture at the bottom of the draw. Got a neighboring hand to help two days later and we got them to a set of well-placed corrals. We sure went through a lot of ammunition, our voices were gone, horses and cows were tired, but we were really proud to have gotten them.

If I was more of a wild cow catcher I would have made pretty rope shots. But I'm not.
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People rag on ranch horses like hey are all skinny, spurred to death and ridden by kids with no idea of how to make a good one.

Frankly I'm glad these stories get out because they blow that myth to pieces. These are some of the nicest, mature, sensible, most well broke horses on earth. People pay BIG bucks for one of them when they are for sale because there is no way to get a better one.

Cool channels by the way.
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