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post #11 of 22 Old 11-05-2013, 11:43 AM
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good as proof of age, markings and ownership. also for resale, here it makes a big difference to have them registered. for owners like myself, who enjoy researching bloodlines and knowing a horses lineage, papers are a definite plus. In the stock horse world, especially AQHA, a horses papers can reveal whether they have a chance of having a genetic disorder, like hypp.
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I guess I dont really mean registered, he is registered RMHA and KMSA, I just have never put him in my name, I have a bill of sale and his registered papers in a folder that travel with me along with his health papers coggins, and all of my dogs papers, and health certs, I just was curious how many go through the trouble of transferring a gelding. In a sense I have all of the proof of age and all of that so....

But I get where most of you are coming from. As far as his worth, I have already turned down $5k for him, so at least I have a place to start......

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post #13 of 22 Old 11-05-2013, 02:54 PM
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As long as you have a signed transfer form that has only the previous owner's info and no date and a clear bill of sale to you, you'll be fine. That allows you to transfer him without any penalties to someone else should you ever sell, but you don't ever have to pay to join the registry or pay transfer fees.

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I had a Bashkir Curly gelding that got transferred into my name. I liked the idea that it was official, and it could be proved (if all else failed) through the registry that I owned him. If you have the papers, why not get them transferred? Some people wish they had when things to sour.
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A transfer that is filled out by the previous owner, but not you is trouble. If you ever misplace it, someone else can complete the transfer and claim they have possession of the horse.
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post #16 of 22 Old 11-05-2013, 08:26 PM
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Do y'all register your geldings? Is there a point in it?

I have a gelding here on the place that I have owned for a little over a year now, I broke him and have him doing a nice job for me as a dog horse.

I have a couple of people who are hounding me to register this horse, and "put him in my name" (random people). I have the papers on him, and more than trust the lady who I got him from.

What is the point of registering a gelding? obviously the blood line has stopped, I dont show, or compete with my boy.

The only benefit I can see to registering this horse, is to the registry its self.

So again, do y'all register your geldings?

Jim
1. Congratulation and good for you to have the good sense to ask "what's the point". There is none.

2. Since you have the papers that would be needed in order to register then if someone buys him and wants him registered then they can do it (why should you spend the money....I sure wouldn't).

3. As dbarabians pointed out. A well trained horse is worth more than a registered one. I've seen equine "mutts" that I'd have spent more for than some registered horses with impressive bloodlines. Registration doesn't make a good horse or even mean that it has any potential. I've ridden horses that we had no real knowledge of their parents bloodlines (in one case not even certain of the breed), but were incredible mounts. The proof is in how the meal turns out not what store the ingredients came from .
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When i bought my gelding i got his AQHA papers with filled out transfer by previous owner. I sent it in right away like bluespark said if you misplace it,and someone else gets a hold of it your in trouble.
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I think if you leave the papers in your safe and claim him as grade on brand inspections and what not, you wouldn't have any trouble. Obviously, don't leave papers with a signed transfer in your truck or trailer, or out where someone could get them. I usually do transfer if I intend to keep the horse a long time, but I never pay to transfer resale projects though. Not worth it.

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Post is a bit confusing? From reading this the horse has registration papers correct?? it is just that the transfer of ownership wasn't done "registering" or putting him in your name as current the owner,is that right? Well having always had registered horses & a breeder,I say if the horse if horse is eligible for registry do it!!if you buy a register horse yes please complete the transfer of ownership!! Registered horses are more desired/increased value , you may not care about papers but any potential new owner may,so unless you can guarantee to keep this horse till the day he dies do it. They may want for breeding purposes, to show the animal ,to have its pedigree/birth record &/or just to say that horse belongs to them.Not keeping the transfers of ownerships up to date can be a real PITA. As a breeder I made the point to have all my stock registered made sure transfers were all filled out & signed for new owners,I have several that new owners never bothered to file the transfer with registry,so those animals according to them are still owned by me.. Sad to say, Now because of neglect of a few I don't trust the new owners to send in the necessary paperwork,so they get a photocopy of papers & I mail in papers myself to get things in order& association will send the orginals back to new owner with stuff complete
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Just my opinion on the grade thing, I agree 100% that a good grade can be worth way more than a registered horse. I grew up riding grades, some of them were incredible saddle horses. I have worked with papered horses bred to the nines that were total psychopaths. I have also sold grades for thousands and had to practically give away some registered horses. But in the long run, for most breeds and especially saddle horses, a fantastic riding gelding will be worth less(to a large percentage of people anyways) than an equally fantastic papered riding gelding.

I'm of the opinion that if you can register a horse and keep the paperwork up to date for a reasonable amount of money, you should, for all the reasons mentioned above
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