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post #1 of 11 Old 10-06-2013, 04:11 PM Thread Starter
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We had our Halloween Ghosts and Goblins pony rides today. I was using my boy Gaylen for lead line rides, I could tell by the 5th ride he was acting funny. My husband took the last ride as everyone went down to eat. Afterwards I decided to hop on and take him around a bit and get his energy out. After trotting once around the arena, he dead stopped and dropped to the ground. If it hadn't been for my friend Sarah yelling "Jump off!" my brain wouldn't have processed what was happening. I yank my leg out just in time as he began to roll. I just stood next to him, completely shocked. He has NEVER done this before. Needless to say, he was retired for the evening. I know I should have gotten back up on him, but we were having a children's event and I was afraid a child would see it and be afraid. And it was raining so he and I were both covered head to toe in mud.
Yesterday, while on a trail ride, apparently he tried to buck off his rider. Thankfully she was experienced enough and rode it out. I rode him afterwards and he was an angel.
We recently switched his grain from Blue Seal Trotter to Safe Choice Maintenance and added in supplements (tri-amino, hoof supplements etc) and was curious if these could be the problem and making him "hot"? He has been on the property for over 3 years and everyone was SHOCKED the last 2 days at his behavior. I just don't know what to do.
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post #2 of 11 Old 10-06-2013, 04:17 PM
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That's not hot. It's an old trick for removing a beginner rider that horses know well. You should have felt him bringing his head down and pulled him back up and moved him forward. He accomplished his goal. Watch for him to do it again.
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That's not hot. It's an old trick for removing a beginner rider that horses know well. You should have felt him bringing his head down and pulled him back up and moved him forward. He accomplished his goal. Watch for him to do it again.
Well, it's just he has NEVER in his life tried to dislodge a rider. He's what we call a babysitter horse. I know the first 2 previous owners, and he was always awesome (the first owner had him from birth to 13, and then current BO). I switched everything 4 days ago, the last 2 days he has bucked and rolled. I know I should have gotten back on, but I explained why I didn't. In the future, if he does it again, I will just get right back on and make him work. I also know what signs to look for.
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post #4 of 11 Old 10-06-2013, 04:25 PM
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Make sure his tack fits him. Have him checked by a vet/chiropractor to rule out pain.

if hes not in pain. I'll bet he has reached a point where he's had enough and is evading work.

But first, rule out pain/health issue.
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Make sure his tack fits him. Have him checked by a vet/chiropractor to rule out pain.

if hes not in pain. I'll bet he has reached a point where he's had enough and is evading work.

But first, rule out pain/health issue.
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He was just vet checked 3 weeks ago, and he was perfect. AND this is a new saddle, made for him exclusively. I am almost positive it has something to do with his grain switch and/or adding supplements, I am going to check but I swear one of them said it added energy.
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A hot horse isn't going to roll. They are going to want to go, not listen, be extremely hyper to deal with...on the ground too. Oversensative.

I doubt its feed related.

I guess crazier things have happened though...
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A hot horse isn't going to roll. They are going to want to go, not listen, be extremely hyper to deal with...on the ground too. Oversensative.

I doubt its feed related.

I guess crazier things have happened though...
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LOL, I get what you're saying. But the only reason I got on was because he was trying to bolt with kids on his back. One girl was experienced so I allowed her to trot him, but after that I had to strong arm him so he couldn't trot. SO I got on him to run him out, I was hoping it would calm him down. Instead he tried to roll on me. He always rolls when he is hot in the field, but never with a rider on him. The BO figured maybe he was hot and wanted to cool off in the mud, but I'm not so sure. Afterwards though, he was steaming where the mud was, so it IS a possibility.
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Depending on what vet did, they may have missed many things.

Twig in soft palate, thorn in flesh under girth, internal problems or what have you.

The way horse is doing I would be thinking pain.

X-rays and MRI's are needed here. Something is majorly wrong here.

And too, while you say saddle is fitted just to him? Doesn't mean there is not something wrong with the saddle. Nails, slivers of wood, tacks, all sorts of things can be wrong inside one. Even a new one. Turn it upside down and press all over it to see if you can find something wrong with the palms of your hands. Have every bit of weight on your hands as you do so, so that it will show up. Check pad too, as someone might have thought they were being funny and put burr in it.

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Depending on what vet did, they may have missed many things.

Twig in soft palate, thorn in flesh under girth, internal problems or what have you.

The way horse is doing I would be thinking pain.

X-rays and MRI's are needed here. Something is majorly wrong here.

And too, while you say saddle is fitted just to him? Doesn't mean there is not something wrong with the saddle. Nails, slivers of wood, tacks, all sorts of things can be wrong inside one. Even a new one. Turn it upside down and press all over it to see if you can find something wrong with the palms of your hands. Have every bit of weight on your hands as you do so, so that it will show up. Check pad too, as someone might have thought they were being funny and put burr in it.
Well, today he was a little "hot" under saddle, but other than that no problems. Looking back, I think the reason he threw a buck while on the trails is the rider was about 300 lbs. I am 250, and the heaviest he has ever had on his back. Before you say anything about me allowing someone that heavy on his back, I didn't. BO did, (I allow her to use him for whatever, it was part of our deal when I bought him) but the woman lied and said she was 265. I showed up just as they were returning. I let BO know that that woman was never allowed on his back again. We have a strict 250 policy for a reason.

And yesterday I honestly just think it was because he was hot from doing 5-6 trail rides (short ones, on a lead line) and saw a nice puddle in the sandy arena. Some horses just can't pass up a nice sandy puddle. But we will keep an eye out, and if needed call the vet out again.
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A hot/sweaty horse and a pond of water .... or soft dirt .....

A lot of horses will try to roll because that's what they do when they are hot and itchy. They roll. I've had numerous horses over the years try to roll while riding (either in water, or in a dirt field). Basically start kicking and screaming to keep them on their feet and move along. It's a good way to break a saddle if they roll over on the top of it (much less the rider if the rider doesn't get themselves of the way if the horse goes down).

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