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post #1 of 11 Old 10-13-2013, 08:22 PM Thread Starter
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Rose is off to the trainer

Rose, the nervous pony we've had for the last five months is off to the trainer, who is also DD riding instructor, in two weeks time.

While I feel like I've come a long way with Rose, she needs more time and expertise than I can offer at the moment.

The trainer will put some miles on her, and if its safe, the other kids at the riding school who are more advanced can help get her more accepting of new people and riders. Once DD has had some more lessons, she can do some of her lesson work on Rose.

It's a great set up, for $80 a week, Rose gets trained daily, DD gets a weekly one hour lesson, and DD and I can go over there twice during the week to hang out, work with Rose and/or ride, play with or groom the riding school ponies, all supervised by the instructor/trainer.

Silly thing is I feel a bit guilty, like I've given up too soon. I know in my head that this is what Rose needs to take her to the next level. She needs to chill out with other people, not just us, she needs regular riding, which DD is not ready for yet, and she needs experienced hands to get her there. Just wish we could keep her at home while we did it. I'm going to miss the silly booger!
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post #2 of 11 Old 10-14-2013, 11:48 AM
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Here's my opinion. (Please don't get offended if this is to forward) I think that the person that is intending to keep the horse for the rest of her life should be the one training it or at least keeping it at their house. The reason i think this is because the horse will bond with whoever trains it. the horse is looking for a partner and leader and i think that the person who trains the horse will be the icon of safety to that horse.
This is just my opinion so dont take it as professional advice.

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post #3 of 11 Old 10-14-2013, 01:26 PM
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Here's my opinion. (Please don't get offended if this is to forward) I think that the person that is intending to keep the horse for the rest of her life should be the one training it or at least keeping it at their house. The reason i think this is because the horse will bond with whoever trains it. the horse is looking for a partner and leader and i think that the person who trains the horse will be the icon of safety to that horse.
This is just my opinion so dont take it as professional advice.
That is a load of poo.

I send all my horses off to a trainer and have never had a problem. If you are a good horse-person with common sense aboutshorse,. You'll be able to get respect from any horse, at any time, under any circumstance. I am very experienced with horses, but Im a full time Nursing student, work part time and I don't have the time to put hours on my horses. so by all means I will send my horse to the trainer and pick up where they left off. I work closely with my trainers. Whether I send my horse away for 60 days or not.

You are living in a fantasy world with little knowledge of training if you believe a horse should only be trained by one person.

There is nothing wrong with sending a horse somewhere for more advanced training. It makes the horse better.
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post #4 of 11 Old 10-14-2013, 02:10 PM
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I agree with CLaPorte432!

Everyone needs to do what is best for them and there horse! Plain and simple.

There is no reason not to send a horse to a trainer if that is what is going to work for you and your situation. It sounds like you want Rose to be able to get used to new people and riders and sending her to the trainer where she will get lessons with different people sounds perfect for that. Learning new things and confidence in a new setting are probably just what Rose needs!

As far as bonding each horse is different a horse isn't going to accept or reject you solely because you trained it. There is so much more that goes into that relationship and each horse is unique which I am sure you know!

Not everyone has the time and experience (or just time) to put in the hours to train a horse or to just put on the miles they need. That doesn't mean you are a bad horse person or you gave up to soon at all! I think you found a great situation where you can still go see her each week and get some more miles on her and get that last bit of work she needs! It is also great that you have the option for lessons so you are still getting to work with her and see how she progresses. I am a full time law student with a job and I am just dreading winter because I won't have hardly any daylight to ride! If we all had TIME we could do it all our selves but its just not realistic for most of us. I haven't had any of my horses off to a trainer but that more because of $ than anything, I am not opposed to it in the future if I ever thought it would help me AND my horse!

Good on you! And please let us know how she progresses!
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I don't believe in sending horses off to trainers also, unless regular lessons are done while the horse is going through training. I HATED getting on my horse that went to a trainer, and not knowing any of his cues. All that trainer did was add a whole bunch of unnecessary cues and training aids (spurs, tie down, twisted bit). I like to train my own horses so I know how each one of them tick, not having someone else know, and not have me know. I will admit, I trained a 3 yr old while being unexperienced with young horses. Yet, I pulled through. Sure it may have been easier just sending him off to a trainer, but I bonded with him and really got to know what makes him work. No one else knows all of that, and they won't be riding him anyway. Just like a trainer wouldn't be riding him beyond training.
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I don't believe in sending horses off to trainers also, unless regular lessons are done while the horse is going through training. I HATED getting on my horse that went to a trainer, and not knowing any of his cues. All that trainer did was add a whole bunch of unnecessary cues and training aids (spurs, tie down, twisted bit). I like to train my own horses so I know how each one of them tick, not having someone else know, and not have me know. I will admit, I trained a 3 yr old while being unexperienced with young horses. Yet, I pulled through. Sure it may have been easier just sending him off to a trainer, but I bonded with him and really got to know what makes him work. No one else knows all of that, and they won't be riding him anyway. Just like a trainer wouldn't be riding him beyond training.
If your trainer is using spurs, tie down and a twisted bit...Your using the wrong kind of trainer.

a professional trainer that is good at their job will not need any of that. And will encourage you to come take lessons.

I go once a week for a lesson and/or to watch the progress of my horse. Or if I want to ride. She allows me to ride because Im competent enough of a rider to not screw up her progress.

If i had the time/energy to train my own horses, i certainly would. But a competent, professional, knowledgable trainer will not ruin your horse and is only going to help your riding and that "bond" with your horse Everyone dreams of having.
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I think DD and I have a good bond with Rose, but she has too many issues with other people in my opinion. She always thinks the farrier is going to kill her! (evil farrier! lol) yet she is fine with her feet with me. I'm too big to ride her as she's only 13hh and I'm 5ft10in and solid DD is still too green as a rider to handle her in the saddle.
We had hoped to have DD riding her by now but we've just come out of out wettest winter ever and the riding school was under 6in of water for the last month or so, so lessons were postponed. Now spring is here so lessons will be more consistent.
I have complete faith in our trainer. She trained all of the lesson horses herself, and bred most of them too. I know she'll train Rose in much the same, so the cues and such will be similar to what DD is used to.
I feel happier about Rose going now. I was feeling a bit down on myself for not finding more time for her. Its good to know most of you think I'm doing the right thing by her. Thanks
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post #8 of 11 Old 11-09-2013, 10:08 AM Thread Starter
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Just updating;
Well after many dramatics getting her on a float, Rose has been at the trainer for ten days now.
Due to some minor injuries from loading her on the float she hasn't been ridden yet ( she reversed out under the bum bar, got stuck, panicked and lifted the bar off its hinges, took a 10cm strip of skin off her back and bruised up badly.) She's been on dry lot to lose some weight too, and looks heaps better.
She is getting used to all the other ponies, but not sharing her pen yet, just in case there are pecking order issues to sort out, we didn't want her getting picked on while she's still sore.
Both the trainer and I have been just leading her around the riding school, getting her used to stuff. She's been better than I expected. Had her on lead in the arena with three other ponies yesterday, and she was really good. A few horse-eating barrels and jumps, but she chilled out pretty quick.
Her biggest issue is the kangaroos. Rose hates kangaroos and this place is in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by bush and full of kangaroos. She's had them in the pen with her trying to steal her hay!! (She was cowering in the back corner LOL) The other day, I counted 30+kangaroos in sight of the arena! It seems to be desensitisation by saturation at the moment! She has improved even with this issue. Doesn't like them in her pen, but will tolerate them in sight at least.
So far so good ��
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I applaud you for realizing that she needed more than you can give her. In the end it will make for a much better relationship for all of you. I've been training horses for years, but I knew that the Arab I had a couple years ago was just a bit sticky, and she needed a bit more push than I was willing to do knowing her past, and always having it fresh in my mind even if I tried to ignore it, so I had one of the girls at the barn she was at, get on her, and work on her canter cues and such a few times. Really helped even though I felt a little stupid for not being able to just buck up and do it myself. She also had trust issues with other people, and as I don't want a "one person" horse, I took every opportunity to let those experienced enough, work with her a bit just so she could learn that there are other trustworthy people besides myself. Worked out great in the end, and she was a much better horse for it. I hope that she really progresses, and starts trusting more! As I live in the US, we have no kangaroos, but I could just imagine the reaction most of the horses I've had would have at seeing kangaroos, and having them in their space. It would be comical.
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Thanks DressageBelle,
I think its the jumping motion of the kangaroos that horses hate. It looks weird to them LOL! Where before Rose would spook and try to run away from them, now she tries to "protect" me by getting between me and the roo. I'm considering that a step forward, but will be happy when she's more chilled out around them like the trainer's other horses.
Rose is very much a one person horse, and I hope that this will make her more accepting of other handlers/riders than she is now. I can see big improvements in her already so hopefully we are on the right track.
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