Scary Accident At The Pasture - Page 3 - The Horse Forum
 23Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #21 of 29 Old 09-12-2013, 03:21 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Watertown, MN
Posts: 5,540
• Horses: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by blue eyed pony View Post
Because hers is sheer blind panic and when I had her in unbreakable halters/leads she injured herself. I can walk away and leave her tied for hours no problem as long as she's calm but the moment the scary evil hairspray can comes out [for braiding] or anything frightening is going on I can't tie her at all or she'll break HERSELF to get away. This horse has absolutely NO sense of self-preservation.

Now that I'm using a different tie ring [a blocker, I think it's called] she seems to be ok, but I've yet to really test her. From experience she spooks, hits the end of the rope, and just freaks. So I want something that'll let her spook, that'll offer resistance but will give at the same time. That's what the blocker is for, and so far it works well.

And yes, she does move off pressure. That was the first thing I did after discovering her tying problems. This is a horse that CANNOT feel trapped. She will break anything and everything necessary to get away if she feels trapped. She used to be quite dangerous about it.
That's interesting. My gelding was a very similar, he actually broke several things and almost broke himself a couple of times before I went for teaching ground tying and on to regular tying. He's a twittery beast and unfortunately for both of us not the smartest creature (though maybe the dumbest) in the world when he is scared. He's the type that thinks running in front of a semi is a good solution to getting away from a tuft of grass waving in the wind. He moved off of pressure well too, but that didn't matter when he was scared.

I know of several people who have used the tie blocker ring with success, my personal issue with it is that there is no guarantee there will be a ring everywhere you go. I'm glad you found a solution that worked for you.
MN Tigerstripes is offline  
post #22 of 29 Old 09-12-2013, 03:59 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 6,982
• Horses: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by MN Tigerstripes View Post
That's interesting. My gelding was a very similar, he actually broke several things and almost broke himself a couple of times before I went for teaching ground tying and on to regular tying. He's a twittery beast and unfortunately for both of us not the smartest creature (though maybe the dumbest) in the world when he is scared. He's the type that thinks running in front of a semi is a good solution to getting away from a tuft of grass waving in the wind. He moved off of pressure well too, but that didn't matter when he was scared.

I know of several people who have used the tie blocker ring with success, my personal issue with it is that there is no guarantee there will be a ring everywhere you go. I'm glad you found a solution that worked for you.
Oh, I haven't got a blocker tie ring, I make do with a normal one. I just use it "weirdly" according to other horsey people I know haha. I can get a photo tomorrow when I bring her in for a ride. It's not difficult to make a makeshift one with a bit of twine if you know what you're doing, but I didn't even bother with that, my tie rings are completely unmodified!

I have a game plan for shows but it basically involves always having to have a helper :/ when I get my own trailer I'll always have a blocker ring attached to it, only thing it's safe to tie to attached to a trailer IMO and only if it's used as it's designed to be used. And THEN I can show without a helper, but until then I will need someone to hold her while I tack up/present/when I can't be with her for whatever reason.

We are unfortunately having to relocate and where we're going may not have tie rings at all, which may prove tricky... but we'll figure something out. Even if it means tying a blocker ring to some baler twine to a fencepost.

MAKORA THOROUGHBRED SPORTHORSES
blue eyed pony is offline  
post #23 of 29 Old 09-12-2013, 04:02 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Watertown, MN
Posts: 5,540
• Horses: 3
Interesting, I'd like to see pics of how you do it!
MN Tigerstripes is offline  
post #24 of 29 Old 09-12-2013, 04:16 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 7,393
• Horses: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinyliny View Post
I appreciate your courage in sharing that mishap here, so that no one else will make the same mistake.
Yes. Who knows how many people might see this and re-think leaving a rope halter on their horse 24/7. Rope halters don't break. And you never know what the horse can get caught on in the pasture.

If you must leave something on your horse, make sure it has leather on it somewhere because the leather will break in an accident.

My horses, personally, get their fly mask left on when the flies are bad, but that is it.
Lockwood likes this.

∞*˚ Βгįťţαňγ ˚*∞
It is not enough to know how to ride; one must know how to fall.
beau159 is offline  
post #25 of 29 Old 09-12-2013, 04:22 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 6,982
• Horses: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by beau159 View Post
If you must leave something on your horse, make sure it has leather on it somewhere because the leather will break in an accident.
Should break. But in fact when my girl snapped her leather halter, the LEATHER was fine. She broke three different metal parts. Beware of absolutes.

MAKORA THOROUGHBRED SPORTHORSES
blue eyed pony is offline  
post #26 of 29 Old 09-12-2013, 04:28 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: East Central Illinois
Posts: 7,135
• Horses: 3
You just need to train your horse so that you don't have to leave a halter on to catch them.
I know it's popular to use rope halters but, honestly, I'm not a fan. There are better alternatives in traditional halters. For instance, I could replace the crown piece on my geldings 3-ply Hamilton halter with a piece of leather, since it buckles on both sides. That will break away with force. I can replace the crownpiece easily should that break, just with another piece of harness leather and a hole punch.
Personally, I turn my horses out halter-less and depend upon their training and the training of my broodmare to keep them walking towards me whenever I bring out a halter and lead.
Glad your horse is ok.

A Jack and Three Queens, the latest book by James C. Dedman, Amazon.com
Hope that you fall in love with "Trot", like I did! https://www.horseforum.com/general-of...queens-617793/
Corporal is offline  
post #27 of 29 Old 09-12-2013, 05:41 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 7,393
• Horses: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by blue eyed pony View Post
Should break. But in fact when my girl snapped her leather halter, the LEATHER was fine. She broke three different metal parts. Beware of absolutes.
Hence why I don't leave halters on my horses at all. I agree the horse should be trained to be caught, but you know there's going to be people who just leave the halter on anyway.

Yes, the leather has a much higher chance of breaking than a nylon rope halter. Or even a regular flat nylon halter.

∞*˚ Βгįťţαňγ ˚*∞
It is not enough to know how to ride; one must know how to fall.
beau159 is offline  
post #28 of 29 Old 09-12-2013, 05:58 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 6,982
• Horses: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by beau159 View Post
Hence why I don't leave halters on my horses at all. I agree the horse should be trained to be caught, but you know there's going to be people who just leave the halter on anyway.

Yes, the leather has a much higher chance of breaking than a nylon rope halter. Or even a regular flat nylon halter.
Neither do I, and I've been there and done that with hard to catch, so it's not like I "don't understand" - which is the excuse I see bandied about all the time.

I think the reason my leather halter only broke in the metal parts is because it was two-ply and double stitched, except for the strap under the chin which was only one layer [and didn't break either]. Was a nice halter but I only EVER left it on when my filly was stabled at night as she was being turned out by someone she didn't know and she can be a bit funny about it. It was a leather halter, in a safe environment. Not a risk I would take again as she WAS still injured by it anyway - it was a perfect fit but rubbed sores on her face because she has such incredibly thin skin.

Nylon rope halters are all but unbreakable because they have no metal parts! Metal is a weak point in a halter setup. Nylon web halters [the flat ones] it depends which ones you get as to how strong they are, I have one that's survived several assaults intact other than a bent chin ring and then I had one that lasted TWO DAYS.

MAKORA THOROUGHBRED SPORTHORSES
blue eyed pony is offline  
post #29 of 29 Old 09-15-2013, 10:28 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,180
• Horses: 4
You got very, VERY lucky that your horse didn't get severely injured. I didn't bother reading the other responses, since all I wanted to do is share a story. My old horse judging coach had a horse before I knew her. This horse was her first horse, and whoever has had horses, the first horse always has a special place in your heart. She would leave the halter on all the time. I'm sure this went on for years. One night, her horse caught her halter on the fence when she was trying to reach a calf's food on the other side. She fought it until she strangled herself. My coach woke up to a phone call saying her horse was hanging dead from the fence by her halter. To this day my old coach vows to never let a horse have a halter on in the pasture. This is also the reason I never let my horses wear their's either.
KylieHuitema is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Before Accident/ Accident photos Mikky Horse Pictures 13 09-04-2013 02:30 AM
Scary Accident...Feeling Guilty pintophile Horse Talk 7 10-10-2011 08:42 AM
SCARY, SCARY moments at horse shows JumpersRule Horse Shows 20 04-23-2011 07:22 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome