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post #11 of 20 Old 09-12-2013, 07:01 PM
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I don't know how to address that one Blue without sounding obnoxious but I am just thinking here :) so no bad intent. Given the hour of arrival with a trailer obviously not suited, and even after your warning and cautions, I am not sure I would have allowed the horse to be taken. Makes me wonder what other advice, good advice, the woman might ignore especially after the long delays for pickup.

I have been lucky, mostly, with sellers. I had one run in with a barn manager (of a sister barn actually) who didn't want the horse brought to our barn for trial because she didn't want to have to deal with new quarantine if the horse was returned (the horse I had on trial was in full quarantine at our barn and didn't go out or "talk" to other horses for the full two weeks so additional quarantine wouldn't have been needed anyway..and this was explained and was a requirement of the barn owner anyway). The owner for both barns took care of that but she was the only obnoxious step in that one.
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post #12 of 20 Old 09-12-2013, 07:03 PM
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Mine is nothing compared to some of these! I agree with buying from a trainer and taking someone with you. Backyard horses can sometimes be what you're looking for but just take precautions when dealing with two unknowns! lol Anywho we went to a trainers place to look at a paint horse. The guy had boarded/trained him and said that he was what we were looking for. There was nothing odd about the guy, the horse was a broke kids horse, passed his vet checks; really the only odd thing there was that you had to saddle him, walk him around once, and then bridle him and then do the same and THEN get on. Seemed like a lot of hassle but the horse rode fine for the guy, was a sweetheart and when me and my dad got on (separately) lol he just plodded around. He didn't seem drugged and acted like a normal, healthy horse. We said we were interested and I forget exactly why the guy got back on (I think it was to show us how to cue him to sidepass or something) but he got on, the horse walked off and then fell over dead. We helped the guy up who was just devastated. He kept apologizing over and over and called the vet immediately for an autopsy. The vet said that the horse had had an anuyerism that was undetectable. From what he thought, the horse had likely had it all his life and it could've busted at any moment. It was a scarey thought for me that we would've brought him home and he might've done this on a little kid.

Also my trainer got a horse in for training that she had trained and sent through sale years ago; the mare was sold as a kids horse and the trainer knew she was anything but. Turns out the horse had been drugged to high heaven AND had evidences of being denerved on her front hoof (despite the fact that the vet said it was healthy).
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post #13 of 20 Old 09-12-2013, 07:57 PM
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DH called on a Craigs List ad last year, in the dead of winter. We were looking for a horse for him. The guy has several horses listed. So we make an appt., then the tile guy is late, and the weather is turning bad, so we postpone to the next day, and hope things are better. DH was on the phone with this guy AT LEAST 8 times during the day. We could go, but he had a lesson...he was free, but we had to wait for the tile guy...So the next day, we head over there about 10 AM. He has this beautiful horse saddled, tail 3 ft on the ground, and at a beautiful Saddlebred barn. This is not his barn, he gives some lesoons here.... Was raised in Texas, until the Bastrop fire took their place, but did NOT remember the name of the road(??) etc., so I rode this obviously lame horse, and he said ALL TWH moved like that, and he sold all the other horses he had the day before!! REALLY?? We smelled the RAT and left.

My little neighbors friend comes over with her, and I am talking to her Mom about the horse they bought....supposed to be registered, but they are having trouble getting papers, because he sold a ladie's horse that maybe he was not supposed to sell!!! YEP, same guy. He ALSO sold himself to her as a horseshoer, and my Hoof guy knows him.....as a REALLY bad horse trainer. Dang, must be a really smart guy to keep all these stories straight!!

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post #14 of 20 Old 09-12-2013, 10:49 PM Thread Starter
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Yes, I had another friend who had Doxie puppies for sale. This couple comes out at 10:30 pm, backed into her drive way, she brought out the puppy and the papers, they asked for a sample of food, and when she went in, they tore *** out of her drive way, without paying.
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post #15 of 20 Old 09-12-2013, 10:58 PM
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Thankfully, most the bad buying/selling experiences I know of didn't happen to me. Since I usually only buy unhandled/untrained horses for myself, folks don't generally feel the need to lie about what they are or drug them up to make them seem calm. I also don't go to pick them up by myself; I normally ask Dad or Brother to go with me just because they know how to handle a wild horse without pushing too hard and getting someone hurt.

As for selling, most of the horses I've sold went to folks that I knew so that was okay.

I've had plenty of those spooky "Okay, this situation is fixing to go very bad very quick" instances during other times though. You know, walking through the Wal-Mart parking lot at 2 in the morning and realizing that you're being followed, having a strange guy start banging on your door in the middle of the night, etc.
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post #16 of 20 Old 09-12-2013, 11:14 PM
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post #17 of 20 Old 09-12-2013, 11:42 PM
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I have two to relate:

This one is a pretty classic horse story, I should think. My neighbour was telling me that, in his search for a new riding horse, he showed up deliberately a half hour early (or thereabouts) to check out a potential buy advertised as a well trained horse. He arrived to find the owner with grain bucket in hand trying without success to catch the horse in the pasture. After a few minutes of watching this, my neighbour called it a day and left.

This is a non-horse one but can serve as a cautionary tale. I had read an ad in the paper advertising antiques for sale in the city at a certain address (no telephone number listed). I had occasion to go into the city the next day, remembered the ad and since it was on the way stopped at the house to look. There was a young woman and diaper clad young child at home. It was an older house with few furnishings (apparently the good antiques had sold by the time I got there) and gave every indication of someone living with limited income and not the best of circumstances. I`m getting ready to leave and two of the other residents show up. I`m being kind when describing them as hoodlums. They park themselves by the only exit and show no signs of being civil. In that moment I realize not only do I not have a cell, I have told no one I was going to be here and I told no one I even read the ad. The only thing I could think to do was say `thanks for taking the time to show me the pieces and I must be on my way now as I told my husband I`d only be a couple of minutes here. I had to squish by the two guys at the door who didn`t move a muscle to get out of my way despite me asking politely to pass. I tell you - give me a bucking bronco any day to dealing with that situation.
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post #18 of 20 Old 09-13-2013, 01:44 AM
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I showed up early for an appointment to see a horse one time.....you know the way people always suggest you do.....so you can see the horse being caught, saddled, etc. and the people were kind of rude about it and told me to come back. So I never went back. I was maybe 20-30 minutes early, not hours early or anything.

I tell myself there must have been something wrong with the horse that they didn't want me to see, but it still left bad taste in my mouth, like I did something wrong. So I don't show up early for horse viewing appointments anymore. Should I feel like the bad guy? I do.

I hate buying horses. I LOVE horses, but I hate trying to buy a good one, know what I mean? I would much rather buy a horse from a friend or friend-of-a-friend. But nobody I know ever sells their horses...not ones I would want anyway, so I end up doing it the hard way, trying to get a safe, sound horse from a total stranger. I hate that.
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post #19 of 20 Old 09-13-2013, 01:51 AM
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LOL, I guess this is where I differ from a lot of sellers. I don't even try to catch the horse before a buyer arrives because I want them to see the horse being caught, bridled, saddled, and ridden straight from their pasture.

BUT, I'm confident in my horses and I describe them as exactly what they are...faults as well as virtues.
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post #20 of 20 Old 09-13-2013, 10:07 AM
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LOL, I guess this is where I differ from a lot of sellers. I don't even try to catch the horse before a buyer arrives because I want them to see the horse being caught, bridled, saddled, and ridden straight from their pasture.

BUT, I'm confident in my horses and I describe them as exactly what they are...faults as well as virtues.

I do the same, when I was selling my other gelding I waited until the buyer showed up to even catch him.
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