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post #1 of 7 Old 08-11-2014, 03:42 PM Thread Starter
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Senior mare finally showing signs of slowing down...

My senior mare Gypsie (20 y/o TWH) finally showed me that she's ready to start slowing down the other day. I took her for a ride and she was very stiff (she's on a joint supplement) and her joints didn't loosen up until we were halfway home (it was a short ride, only about four miles, roundtrip).

Earlier, I went out and called the horses to the barn and my beautiful Gypsie was running in last place, way behind the other horses... and up until just a few months ago she ran way out in front of all the other horses.

I tried to partially retire her last year and the year before, and she was having none of it... but now I believe she's finally ready to be partially retired from riding. I've noticed that when I lead her, she's stiff in her legs and slow to walk, but when she gets 'warmed up' she's ready and willing to go, but not as fas, as far or as much as before...
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If you haven't already, please have her insulin and cortisol levels checked.

Even though she has arthritis, believe me, metabolic issues can greatly exacerbate arthritis issues.

My very forward moving TWH had a big loss of energy when he was around 16 - 17. I left it go, thinking he was "just getting old".

Two years later, he kept laying down outside and stayed down for longer periods, he dropped a lot of weight suddenly and became depressed.

He was diagnosed with Equine Metabolic Syndrome. He is now 26 and fine for the most part but his endocrine problems arthritis zap his energy.

TWH's are on the Predisposed List for metabolic problems and she is at the prime age to develop them.

The vet will draw two viles of blood to check insulin and cortisol levels - it is only painful to the checkbook
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I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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I'll have to start saving, and it may be a while before I can get that done, but it is something I'd like to have done.

Farrier just left a little while ago and I asked him about a swollen spot on her knee that has came and went for the past year and just recently decided to come and stay... He said it was a calcium deposit and that there's a chance she'll pop her knee in a year or so. He had/has a horse with the same issue.

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I'll have to start saving, and it may be a while before I can get that done, but it is something I'd like to have done.

Farrier just left a little while ago and I asked him about a swollen spot on her knee that has came and went for the past year and just recently decided to come and stay... He said it was a calcium deposit and that there's a chance she'll pop her knee in a year or so. He had/has a horse with the same issue.
Is she a lateral pacer when she's in the pasture and possibly does the Stepping Pace or rack under saddle?

My horse is a Step Pacer and a hard lateral pacer in the pasture. I never saved the article but, I read somewhere that horses built to do a hard lateral pace at liberty are more prone to arthritis issues.

My horse has a calcium deposit between his hock and fetlock. It was very painful for him until it fused.

I keep a tub of Sore-No-More and a box of vet wrap in the cupboard for when he really starts favoring that leg. If I slather the clay poultice on pretty thick and wrap it with vet wrap for the night (he comes in at night), he's much improved after a few treatments.

Also, Lubrisyn-HA really does help. I didn't think it did until I ran out right when the house insurance was due, so didn't buy any. I realized just how much it helps lubricate the joints when my horse started to really favor that leg.

It's a joint lubricant and safe for metabolic horses in case that turns out to be an issue.

The horse gets 15ml daily so it lasts a long time.

Equine « LubriSyn

She is dragging her toes, tripping, stumbling? Loss of energy combined with those things might mean something else is wrong.

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I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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She actually doesn't gait at all... never really had. I've had her rack about three strides with me back years and years ago, but nothing else. She walks, trots, canters and gallops. She does do this one trot that is super fast and impossible to post to where she (going at a trot) can out-run a horse cantering/hand-galloping.

I'll look into Lubrisyn. It sounds like what I may need to start getting her. She's been on the joint supplement VitaFlex with MSM for two years now and it was working really, really well until earlier this year...

She's not dragging her toes, tripping or stumbling. Her energy levels are mostly still about the same as always, just a little slower at first due to stiff joints... once she's warmed up and loosened the joints, she's ready and rearing to go as much as she can.

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You might be able to get the Lubrisy-HA at a local feed/tack store, I buy mine locally.

I think Valleyvet.com might also sell it.

There's another product called Kinetic Conquer that my vet carries. He sold it to me at cost to try it.

https://www.kinetictech.net/conquer-liquid.php

It is supposed to be more potent than LubriSyn-HA but I can't say that I see a big improvement in fluidity, when my horse walks. I THINK he comes out of his stall less stiff in the morning but, that could only be because that is what I want to see. If I watch long enough pretty soon I'm not sure what I see and what I only perceive to see

It may work better on another horse; I just wanted to give you the link so you would have something else to think about

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Thanks! I'll check into that, too.

I'm going to give my vet a call in the next day or so to do an over the phone consultation with them about which would be best to put my mare on, etc... but first I want to do some of my own research before I call the vet.
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