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post #1 of 21 Old 06-15-2010, 07:44 PM Thread Starter
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Should I ask for my $$ back?

Gunther has been in training for 3 months now.

The first two months with the trainer were great! Everything went well, Gunther as well as I learned alot. Mainly, I was taught how to gain control, his attention, and trust while mainly trail riding. Those first months were worth every penny spent. I even learned how to train other horses for trail riding and just to relax them. I can get on a hot race horse and calm him down into an old trail horse.

This last month however I have learned nothing, the trainer comes and watches me ride. He always said "if I'm not saying anything then you're doing a good job", the problem is he never says anything! I know for a fact I wasn't doing perfect every ride. He was great for the basics and for the "backyard" rider, but I wanted more in depth training. He can't do that. The other day he came to the barn, took everything with him and said "I'm going on half retirement to golf" or whatever. So now I'm left with NO trainer and I still have about a week left of "lessons" from him. He said to just give him a call when I wanted him to come out...

Originally I was going to take that week of lessons I have left and give them to my aunt who is planning to lease him while I'm in another year of college. But now I don't want to. I think this guy is good? I mean I've known him since Jan and he seems like a trustworthy guy. So I can't tell if he's taking advantage of me.

All I feel like saying is "can I have my $350 back for the whole month" I think he's a good guy and that's why I don't want to ask because he's very nice. I don't know. I'm very confused on what to do.

I mean $350 isn't a huge amount, but for a college student it is.


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Is he aware that you don't feel satisfied with your lessons? You can't really ask for your money back for the entire month if he has thought you were enjoying them the whole time. That would be like going to a restaurant, eating your meal, then complaining and asking for your money back.
Maybe just ask for a refund for the final week, since he's obviously not going to actually give you the lessons/training for that time.
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Yeah you have a good point, I think he could tell because before we could talk for hours and he could talk about training forever but the last month he and I never talked. It was awkward really..

I'm actually miserable thinking about it..


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Sounds like maybe he's not really very confident in teaching more advanced lessons, or something like that?
I'd definitely send him and e-mail or call him ASAP and explain your thoughts, that way you have a higher chance of him refunding at least the money for the last week. It would be nice if he understood and refunded you for the whole month, but I somehow doubt he would. He's probably already spending your money on his golf trip. :roll:
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I don't know what it is, either way I'm very disappointed. I know he will give it back for the last week but I feel like now I just paid him to sit on his *** watching me ride, offering no advice. I'm in such a bad mood thinking about it. I don't even know what to say to him, you would have to know him. He's a very nice man.
AHH


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Maybe something big happened in his life? I mean, if he was great and talkative the first two months and then suddenly for the last month he says nothing it kind of sounds like he's upset about something but doesn't want to say anything. Not saying you should let him off the hook for the money, it should have been his responsibility to inform you of what's happened and accept the fact that he needs some time to himself instead of trying to work through it.

I don't know, I'm just guessing here obviously. Either way, I hope you get your money and hopefully some sort of closure as to why he changed so drastically.
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I am confused here. Is this the person you were apprenticing with...your boss ?
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While it all may not have been perfect, it sounds as though he did some great things for you. $350 dollars a month is not a lot for a trainer. It sounds like he really worked with you and you got more than your moneys worth in the beginning. I paid $600 for one month for my horse. If I were you, I'd look at it like this...for the first two months, he was underpaid, for the last month he was overpaid.....I'd just call it even. I know, with me anyways, from then to now, my job description to a potential trainer/rider instructor has changed tremendously. For my first trainer I told her I need help teaching my horse to stand still to be mounted and be able to ride on the trails confidently. My riding instructor now has the job description of teaching me to post (I ride a gaited horse, so I never got to learn), using my legs and weight to help me use the more subtle cues and to be my eyes on the ground to check my riding posture. Maybe that is some of what happened with you. What you needed when you hired him and what you need now are two different things.
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Maybe something big happened in his life? I mean, if he was great and talkative the first two months and then suddenly for the last month he says nothing it kind of sounds like he's upset about something but doesn't want to say anything. Not saying you should let him off the hook for the money, it should have been his responsibility to inform you of what's happened and accept the fact that he needs some time to himself instead of trying to work through it.

I don't know, I'm just guessing here obviously. Either way, I hope you get your money and hopefully some sort of closure as to why he changed so drastically.
Yeah, the talk around the barn is he is just "burnt out", he was at one point, with my help, starting three horses, one having a past of abuse, and tuning up two horses. That's another thing, I helped him with everything, but I guess the experience was well worth it.


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I am confused here. Is this the person you were apprenticing with...your boss ?
Yes, I know you already have an opinion about him. He was great for the first two moths because I learned so much about starting horses and working with problem horses. With that being said, he is a gaited/trail horse specialist. So I suppose I shouldn't have expected so much more out of him.

I feel let down more than anything, please take an easy with the lashings.


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