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post #1 of 13 Old 10-04-2010, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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Should I Buy Her? (Long, Sorry)

My inner brat emerged today, and I couldn't stand it any longer. I brought up the topic of buying another horse to my dad this morning. I showed him a couple ads I'd been looking at, and he said "I don't think so". I wasn't upset or anything, and I let it go immediately-I knew it would be an extremely long shot at best, and the fact that he didn't get angry about it was just a plus. So off to school I went, and put the thought out of my head.

Well, it turns out dad had indeed been considering my question all day, because when I got home he said that Tiffany (a trainer friend of his, and someone I really respect) had a little palomino mare for sale, and she was asking $900 (which is a little more in my price range than the $2500 horses I've been looking at). I balked when he said: "She [the mare] doesn't like to stand still when you're getting on", but we went to take a look.

So over to Tiffany's we went. The mare had only come to her place on Saturday (and has settled in very well), and has the body of a horse on the legs of a pony; she's got a good deep and thick body (granted, she is a bit fat 'cause she hasn't done anything for 2 years). Tiffany saddled her and got on, and yes indeed, the pony was not one to stand still. Tiffany figures she was a gaming pony, because she's so spiffy and eager to go, and she must have always been mounted while moving or something.

I got on afterwards, and after you do manage to get on, she's decent. Though she is definitely a cheeky and opinionated pony, and you can tell that kids have been on her (or someone who doesn't know how to ride). She wants to have her own way and go where she wants to go, but once you get firm with her and let her know "No, we're going MY way", she doesn't fight too much and settled down a fair bit. She has a lot of pep and spunk, but she has pretty good brakes on her and is easy to bring down to a slower gait (something I'm not really used to with Tango). Of course, that may be just because she's fat and out of shape, but it's promising. Once we got our fights out and she settled down a bit, I found that she can neck rein a little, and that she will in fact (however grudgingly) listen to leg pressure.

I got off, we put her away, and we went home, saying we'd let Tiffany know later on if we wanted her. I definitely didn't want her. No, she doesn't have any buck or rear or spook or major vices, but she needs a LOT of tuning up on manners and responsiveness. No, it's nothing really out of my league; I mean, I probably could deal with her, but it's definitely not what I want as a personal pleasure horse. If I was going to spend the money on a second horse, it would be a good, totally broke one. Yeah, they cost more, but it's a lot less trouble on my part.

Then dad posed an idea: why don't I take her, ride her through the fall and winter, then when she's good and trim and has some miles on her in the spring, turn around and sell her for $1500 or so and get a return on the money I bought her with? And please, I don't want to hear griping about "flipping" horses. Please. Anyways, it's certainly an idea. I mean, one of the main problems I have with Tango is that we never were riding for a purpose and things were going downhill-with a "project pony" I'd go out and ride every day knowing that I was working towards a goal. And the palomino is a project pony more in my league. I could probably get a bucking, kicking horse for $200, but I'd get myself killed before I got my money back. All this pally really needs is miles and a more assertive rider than the kids who undoubtedly rode her before were. And if I ever did really need help, I have an instructor or I could even go back to Tiffany.

So basically, if I did get her...
PROS
-no vices
-not spooky
-already has a decent base of riding on her

CONS
-the biggest thing is that mounting issue
-she needs work on general manners (of course she does-she was a kid's horse)
-needs "fine tuning" so she responds to leg and rein better
-is really inconsistent and uncooperative with backing up while you're on her
-doesn't want to stand still for more than a couple seconds

I don't think I left anything out. If I did I'll come back and add it in later. So what do you think? Should I buy her, tune her up and then sell her in the spring? Or should I pass and keep on saving until I can get a really good horse for a couple thousand dollars that won't need any work? At the very least, working with her would be fun, and expand my knowledge a lot. Who knows-if spring came around and I really liked her, I could even keep her. Do you think I'm totally stupid for even thinking about buying her? I'm not going to make any brash decisions, and I'm definitely going to want to ride her again before I made the final choice (ride her out of the arena, definitely). I trust Tiffany and I know she'd tell us if she had anything wrong with her, and Tiffany did ride her out away from the barn, but I'd want to see if I myself am capable of handling her. Let me know what you think.



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Oh, and the mare's 10...not sure if that's important, but just so you know in case you were curious.


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I don't think it would be a bad idea. The money you get for selling her in the spring could go towards your new horse. And over the winter you would have time to look for a really good decent horse. I would say go for it! It'll be a learning experience for the both of you.
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If your heart is not in it, then don't do it. The horse needs some help with some issues but you need to WANT to help her. Do you WANT to help her?
You will never make money on the horse. You have to keep her and pay all her costs until she is sold. However, if you WANT to help her and see her "diamond" come out of its' rough, then the experience would be invaluable for the two of you.
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If your heart is not in it, then don't do it. The horse needs some help with some issues but you need to WANT to help her. Do you WANT to help her?
You will never make money on the horse. You have to keep her and pay all her costs until she is sold. However, if you WANT to help her and see her "diamond" come out of its' rough, then the experience would be invaluable for the two of you.
I think it would be really cool to see what I can accomplish with her over the winter. It would be neat seeing improvements in a horse that I "trained" myself. I still am really torn. On one hand, it would be an awesome learning experience, but then again I did start out looking for a trail horse that's already finished instead of a project. I really don't know yet.


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i say go for it bc it would be an awesome learning experience for you. i would love to do that

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I don't think I'm going to get her. Tiffany's keeping her 'till Saturday (after which she's sending her to the sales), so I have 'till then to decide. But I don't think I'm going to do it.


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I agree with you about not doing it. Yes, she could be fun and you could learn a lot, but do you really WANT to? And you are NOT going to make any money off of her. After time (and money) spent training, feeding, caring, etc etc etc you'll have spent more than how much you'll sell her for! Plus, there is no guarantee that you'll sell her, or get that much for her. It'd be better to just start saving your pennies for a new horse in the time that you would have had the mare.
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I think it would be really cool to see what I can accomplish with her over the winter. It would be neat seeing improvements in a horse that I "trained" myself. I still am really torn. On one hand, it would be an awesome learning experience, but then again I did start out looking for a trail horse that's already finished instead of a project. I really don't know yet.

It may seem like that now, but later you may regret it. Stick to your priorities. If after one ride you say to yourself, I really don't care for this horse, why do you think owning her would make her better. What would most likely happen is that you'll find yourself in the Spring with a horse you don't care for and can't sell right now because of the economy. You will have to feed and care for this horse all winter.

My advice since your dad was willing to give $900 for this pony is to see if he'll put that money into an account. Than put the money each month into the account that would of gone to caring for the pony. Next spring you should have a nice little figure that will by you the horse of your dreams. I know its REALLY difficult to wait when your dying to buy your first horse. My first pony was the absolute worse experiance of my life and I would of given anything for someone older (my parents knowing nothing about horses at the time) to say... why don't you wait just a bit. I gave her back to her previous owners just two months after buying her. Thankfully, they gave me back my money, not something every horse person is willing to do. I than found a mare for $100 more who turned out to be my best friend and exploring buddy.

Listen to the little voice that says no, it's not always easy, but in the end it will save a lot of useless heartache.
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It may seem like that now, but later you may regret it. Stick to your priorities. If after one ride you say to yourself, I really don't care for this horse, why do you think owning her would make her better. What would most likely happen is that you'll find yourself in the Spring with a horse you don't care for and can't sell right now because of the economy. You will have to feed and care for this horse all winter.

My advice since your dad was willing to give $900 for this pony is to see if he'll put that money into an account. Than put the money each month into the account that would of gone to caring for the pony. Next spring you should have a nice little figure that will by you the horse of your dreams. I know its REALLY difficult to wait when your dying to buy your first horse. My first pony was the absolute worse experiance of my life and I would of given anything for someone older (my parents knowing nothing about horses at the time) to say... why don't you wait just a bit. I gave her back to her previous owners just two months after buying her. Thankfully, they gave me back my money, not something every horse person is willing to do. I than found a mare for $100 more who turned out to be my best friend and exploring buddy.

Listen to the little voice that says no, it's not always easy, but in the end it will save a lot of useless heartache.
She went to the sales yesterday anyways. It's too late to get her now even if I wanted her still.

$700 of the money I woulda bought her with would've been mine, and my dad would've loaned me the rest. Yes, I am still saving, and hoping to get a job soon.

And she wouldn't have been my first horse. Oh GOD I can't even imagine. I would have never even considered a horse like her for my first. That would have been the worst decision of my life. I'm looking for a second horse that I can toy around with, or take people riding with, or just have something different when I don't feel like riding Tango.


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