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post #11 of 41 Old 04-20-2013, 02:51 AM
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I'd rather eat animal products than some of the fake-animal-made-in-a-plant-products they have on the market. If you want to avoid gelatin because it impacts horses, then I expect you to refuse ANY meat and ANY food product with traces of ANY meat in it... or do you only want to protect horses?

I think it's silly for someone (or groups of people) to want to protect one breed of animals, when countless other breeds are treated in the exact same way and it's not a problem for them. Either it's an issue, or it isn't, don't be selective about it.
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post #12 of 41 Old 04-20-2013, 07:09 AM
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I've always known what gelatin was made from, and it doesn't bother me. But it would if it was a 'secret ingredient', like the controversy in Europe at the moment. I wouldn't consider eating horse if I didn't know what it was. I would consider it if I knew what it was.

The way I see it, if the animal is dead you might as well make use of it however you can. Better than having carcasses lying around everywhere.

Did you know that Mentos mints have gelatin in them? Next time you eat one, you can say 'ahh, horsey fresh'.

Seriously, people need to worry more about how these animals are dying, rather than why and what happens to them afterwards.
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Apparently the OP didn't actually process what she was reading. Food grade means for human consumption. Food grade gelatin doesn't have horse in it, although I hope she wasn't a paste eater as a child.

I have no problem if someone wants to go vegetarian or vegan. What I DO have a problem with is so many of them proclaiming it as if they've taken holy orders, and act like the rest of us are morally corrupt if we don't follow suit.

As far as animals being vegetarians, cats are OBLIGATE carnivores and will die if not given meat and meat products. Heck, even some plants are meat eaters.

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post #14 of 41 Old 04-20-2013, 08:14 AM
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I totally get where the OP is coming from. No one is just born with the knowledge of where their food comes from or what it goes through to get into the shiny box or package one buys at the grocery store.
It can be quite a revelation when someone learns those things and there is nothing wrong with sharing the knowledge with others. Far too many people these days don’t have a clue and I’m glad to see that people are starting to care and aren’t blindly swallowing whatever comes across their plate.

As a parent of a child with severe allergies and celiac disease, my food journey since he was born has been VERY eye opening! And sad too since, as the OP mentioned, because people generally don’t think about what they eat, particularily if the ingredients are considered "Food Grade" or "Safe for Human Consumption".
Plus, many have no clue that the things they eat on a daily basis can be what is making them sick, tired, or causing a bunch of long standing health issues a person would never think to connect to food.
I mean.... if the USDA says it's "safe" then it must be. <sarcasm>

I have many hot buttons when it comes to safe nutrition for my child (because his very health depends on it) and appreciate your post Hellothere.
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post #15 of 41 Old 04-20-2013, 09:06 AM
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Gelatin suddenly sounds less appealing. (Why did you tell me this!!!! growse!)

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post #16 of 41 Old 04-20-2013, 12:26 PM
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As a parent of a child with severe allergies and celiac disease, my food journey since he was born has been VERY eye opening! And sad too since, as the OP mentioned, because people generally don’t think about what they eat, particularily if the ingredients are considered "Food Grade" or "Safe for Human Consumption".
Plus, many have no clue that the things they eat on a daily basis can be what is making them sick, tired, or causing a bunch of long standing health issues a person would never think to connect to food.
I mean.... if the USDA says it's "safe" then it must be. <sarcasm>

I have many hot buttons when it comes to safe nutrition for my child (because his very health depends on it) and appreciate your post Hellothere.
I understand where you are coming from Lockwood. I personally have Celiac Disease, Ulcerative Colitis, a Dairy Allergy and countless food restrictions in an attempt to keep the UC under control (want to watch people fall over, tell them your Dr said you aren't allowed any FIBER... yeah, bring on the Wonder Bread! Ugh...).

I personally would love for the FDA to require every single last ingredient and what it is derived from to be listed on packaging. Reality though is that isn't going to happen I'm sure. I cannot depend on labels, menus, and so forth to ensure my food is safe so *I* quit eating pre-packaged whatever, raise my own meat, try and raise fruits/veggies and shop local/farmers markets for them. I also trade free range eggs for other people's surplus produce.
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Well, I will say we have come a long way in the past 30 years, which is when I started paying REALLY close attention to what was in everything, since I have a sone (now 32), who was, and still is, allergic to all dairy. Not a "lactose intolerance" type of allergy, but a "my throat is closing up" anaphylactic ALLERGY. I used to have to struggle to figure out if there were any dairy derived products (like whey, even) in everything. Now, it is much easier. So, it is now possible for people to make intelligent choices, according to their beliefs of what is in their best interest.

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post #18 of 41 Old 04-20-2013, 01:32 PM
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Same here franknbeans. My son has to have an epi-pen with several hundred feet of him at all times for an anaphylactic reaction to accidental exposure to so many things (milk included) that it is frightening.

I can't even imagine how hard that was when your son was little. Mine is only 9 and when we started this road it was a lot more difficult to trnslate labels. Its is getting better... but slowly.



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I personally would love for the FDA to require every single last ingredient and what it is derived from to be listed on packaging.

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Yep, the UDSA and FDA both fall far short!

I’m willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt because I think that no matter why someone is looking at their food source and at least trying to make informed choices for whatever their reasons…health, ethical, environmental….etc… it can only be a good thing.

And, if someone wants to avoid products that may have horse parts in them, then hey…more power to them. It is a legitimate reason that can lead a person to go on and consider even more food choices.

Learning where one’s food comes from often starts with just one item or thing that has nothing to do with a disease or condition diagnosis and it can be statements like the OP made that will encourage someone else to maybe stop and look at their own food choices because they might not have known that fact before.

I’m also gluten intolerant. While I haven’t done the tests like my son had to have for actual celiac disease, there was no need for them as it became very obvious after my pregnancy.
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post #19 of 41 Old 04-20-2013, 06:04 PM
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Gelatin is a mixture of peptides and proteins produced by partial hydrolysis of collagen extracted from the skin, boiled crushed horn, hoof and bones, connective tissues, organs and some intestines of animals such as domesticated cattle, chicken, pigs, and horses.
Horses in North America are not slaughtered to make gelatin, or any kind of food really. The price that kill buyers pay for horses is less than what it cost to raise them. No, food is just a side effect – the real reason horses are slaughtered here is because of over breeding. If you don't want horses going to slaughter, that's the problem you need to work on.

On another note, I didn't know gelatin was partially made from skin. I guess that explains why it's so good for dry skin (which it is, and it's cheaper than any skin cream you can buy).
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