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post #1 of 9 Old 04-02-2013, 06:44 AM Thread Starter
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So you fed my horse bute and didnt tell me?

So when it flooded in queensland not long ago my paddock became too flooded to have my horse in and my aggistment owner wouldnt let me put her in one of the other paddocks so my only choice was to let her room with aggistment owners herd of horses. They aren't in a paddock but run around the property at their own will (only way out of property is over cattle grid though) but this means they walk along the tracks where you drive into the aggistment, and they can go get in other peoples way. Anyway I noticed alot of people started touching my horse while she was out. I had a rain sheet on one day and I went out to take it off for 2 hours while it wasnt raining and it was missing. I had work that night and I rang everyone up asking if anyone knew where it was because rain was coming in and I went to work worried because she didnt have her rain sheet on. Finished work and my mum told me one of the aggistee's had taken it off put it in the aggistment owners shed and then caught her in the arvo while I was at work and put it back on. Relieved but annoyed.
Then one day I went out to find Smarty in her flooded paddock standing in water. She wasnt supposed to be in there and there was no way she got in without someone putting her in. Worst part theres rocks and tree stumps in there and they were underwater so she couldnt see them. I asked around but noone admitted to it though I have a hunch who did it because she was whining about how even though my paddock was flooded I should have sucked it up and left her in there but have no proof so got nothing...
Then I find out yesterday while she was out of her paddock my friends horse was on bute in his feed and he let Smarty have some....There was nothing wrong with my horse and you fed her bute?!!?! Can that do harm? Why would you honestly feed someone elses horse any feed whatsoever!? Smarty gets hot when shes on feed and no work. And its not just that one time hes let her have some of his horses food. Its maybe the 5th time, I've caught him doing it twice and dragged her away. Put her back in her paddock as soon as there were dry spots.
I'm just over people touching my horse!! I know I made another post about the aggistment earlier I'm just mad that someones feeding my horse feed and his horses medication.
Yes Smarty is a very cute 14.3 hh quarter horse with a laid back nature. Shes friendly to everyone but that does not give anyone the right to touch my horse, feed my horse, move my horse or do anything with my horse while I'm not there.
Sorry rant over. But on the note of bute, can it have any effects on a horse that doesnt need it??

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post #2 of 9 Old 04-02-2013, 07:22 AM
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I hate it when other boarders give your horse stuff/food without permission. I had a fellow boarder a few years ago feed my mare beat pulp. The combination of them not fully wetting the beat pulp and my mare never having had beat pulp resulted in colic. That was a lovely evening fixing what should not have been broken in the first place.

Bute should not harm her. Its a fairly safe anti-inflammatory. In large amounts chronically it can cause ulcers but as far as an over dose you would have to give a whole lot. The usual dose is 1-2 grams so I would doubt that your horse got enough of a dose for it to even be considered therapeutic.

I would consider changing barns. The colic of my mare was a significant reason that I moved.
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post #3 of 9 Old 04-02-2013, 07:22 AM
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Calm yourself. You are getting WAY upset over some things that really are not such HUGE deals. A horse out in the rain without a sheet-will live. In fact, they DO all the time. Noone is purposely feeding your horse anything. Your horse is out with other horses who get feed. She takes some. Unless you keep her elsewhere, alone, or separate her for feedings, it happens. Bute is pretty commonly used, and if she is just getting part of another horses dose-most likely does nothing.

If you are SO upset about anyone touching your little pookie, I suggest that perhaps you need to keep her at your house where you, and you alone can care for her 24/7. That seems to be the only way you will be happy. Making all of this drama is a bit silly, IMO. I would be really tired of it is I were at the same barn as you. I would bet that you are not the only one who cares about your horse.
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Bute's nothing to worry about, but I'd be pretty frustrated with the agistment situation. Unless you're getting a special offer or you're behind on your payments, the usual procedure (from what I've known with agistment places) is that if paddocks are flooded, the "homeless" horses are put in with other boarders' horses, or in with one of the BO's horses, but never more than 2-3 to a paddock. My awesome BO always tried to find a good buddy match for each of them and Brock (who couldn't be put in with mares or colts) would end up with her old gelding. Putting a horse in a pretty feral-sounding herd situation from what I assume is a private paddock is a great way for it to get a bit beat up as it finds its place in the pecking order. Not great.

However, in saying all that, the QLD floods were pretty difficult for property owners, and she may not have had a lot of choice. So the jury's out for mine. I'd just keep an eye on the treatment my horse is receiving in the future, and whether you feel like you're getting what you paid for within reason.

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post #5 of 9 Old 04-02-2013, 07:54 AM
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I'd be more concerned with who put her in a flooded paddock with debris all over it, as far as harm goes. Barring your horse isn't allergic to bute and she didn't feed overfeed it to her, giving bute is like popping an Advil or Tylenol when you don't have a headache/pain. Is it a good idea to get into the habit, no, but once won't do her harm. I would get on that persons case though. They shouldn't feed your horse anything, whether be carrots or bute.
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post #6 of 9 Old 04-02-2013, 08:07 AM
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I understand.

It's not so much the issue of them feeding your horse, or taking the rug off - but the fact that other people feel and act as though they have the right to do things with your horse. Which they don't. And if your rug is taken off you are wasting trips out there, and your rug could easily get damaged or go missing. It's just not a good thing for someone to do. Especially moving a horse.

I'd talk to the manager and ask them what the rules are, and if they can make sure that everyone is aware of and following the rules. And talk to the person. Not aggressively, but clearly. Be positive and be friendly but make it clear that it was not acceptable. Give them an option - like say, if you have concerns in the future please just call me rather than unrugging or moving my horse.

Where I agist there are rules such as you have to feed your horse outside of a shared paddock. If people fed their horses in their paddock I certainly would not keep Rosie there.
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Its not so much her stealing the food as him picking up a couple handfuls and giving it to her. and the reason I get upset about the rainsheet is because out of all the horses I have ever met Smarty gets really shaky and cold with any rain. Shes a quarter horse and got alot of fat to keep her warm but if she isnt rugged when it rains I get phonecalls from everyone out there telling me (which is very kind of them)
Im just getting a very sour attitude towards all of it. Yes I don't mind people patting her, saying hello etc. If say it stops raining and they see she still has her rain sheet on and they want to grab it off, great, I just wish theyd send me a text or put my rug somewhere that I can find it if needed later. I told my aggistment owner I wasn't comfortable with the fact people were moving my horse, doing stuff to her and he never replied to my message. The qld floods were a problem as I was in the area that the town was halfway under water but there were two spare paddocks which owner didnt let me put her in. I'm kind over it so i'm going to go talk to him tomorrow and ask if he's got any other paddocks available that the fences are all standing upright has no tree stumps, has no problems with it and see if i can swap paddocks. I'm just frustrated, sorry guys. It's like everythings going wrong at the moment.

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i understand and would be upset too. its not what they did, its the point that they did it. its your horse and they shouldnt feel entitled to mess with her. on the other hand maybe they really were just trying to be helpful but didnt know any better.
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post #9 of 9 Old 04-02-2013, 07:23 PM
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This is why I'd hate to board my horse anywhere. As you said, it is the fact that they THINK they have the right to do whatever they want with your horse without your permission. I bet they wouldn't like it if you did the same to theirs.

I'm lucky enough to have property at home. Although it still isn't perfect - when Misty was in the front paddock (right next to the road) I caught some people feeding her two entire loaves of bread !! I nearly had a heart attack, it is so lucky she didn't colic.

I think you honestly need to talk to the BO about this. It is a matter of respect and consideration. And to be honest, I'd just be moving to a new barn (if possible).

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