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post #1 of 13 Old 04-16-2013, 12:57 AM Thread Starter
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Stallion to Gelding at 10yrs

I am wondering what you all think of a 10 yr old stallion that will now be gelded? He has been a well mannered stud and used as a lesson horse.

So he will be gelded soon and I am just wondering if you all feel that he will have a "gelding" mentallity or do you feel that he will still keep a "stallion" mentallity?

I may be interested in purchasing him and I am very new to horses. So I want some honest opinions and or experience on this subject.
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From what I've seen hands on, most late geldings are studly. Not to say he won't be a good ride. But may require certain housing.
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One of mine was gelded as a 10yr old.
Not sure what he was like as a stallion, but as a gelding he can be quite pig headed, stubborn and oh boy you should see the temper tantrums he throws when he is not in the lead when being ridden out.
He is also quite fond of the ladies. He has a few girlfriends in the paddock next to him and he is quite content with grooming them over the fence. When he occasionally gets in with the girls, he is fine (normally when the electric fence is left off). He doesn't herd them and will happily graze with them. He is fine with other geldings although it took him a while to figure out how to socialise as a horse after being a stallion for so long. We had him in a paddock next to other horses for a few months before putting him in the paddock with another horse (we made sure is was a bossy mare, so he could learn his place) and have not had a problem since.

I think it depends on the horse and their temperment as to how well they adjust. I would advise against chucking him into a paddock with others straight after he is gelded. Give him time to let the hormones settle down first. :)
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One of my horses was a breeding stallion for 10 years, he was gelded at 12 or 13 yrs old. He is not studdy now, he could care less about mares. He was a well behaved stud, and is now a well behaved gelding. I didn't own him as a stallion but I did show & work with him for his then owners. He is kid friendly now, his favorite thing to do is give rides, less work he figures. He will be doing my granddaughter's birthday party at the end of the month, we got her a leadline saddle for her birthday, he will be presenting it to her and giving rides. I suppose it really depends on the horse itself as to whether they retain studdiness. 734325_10200263397601324_841111320_n.jpg
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may be interested in purchasing him and I am very new to horses. So I want some honest opinions and or experience on this subject.
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As others have posted, it depends on the horse. However, since you are new to horses if the stud has issues after he is gelded you may not have the knowledge to "fix" things or the know how to head them off before a behavior becomes problematic. Are you working with a trainer?

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If you are new to horses, it is my opinion that you would be better off buying a horse that has no looming potential problems. A late gelded stud is possibly going to be a handful. He may do fine, but he may not.

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Every horse is different. I've seen studs that bred a lot of mares not give a crap about mares once they are gelded

And I've seen geldings that were gelded early and never bred act studdy around mares

My grandmas stud was a handful. Now else's the mares come in season, they chase him around begging and he runs away trying to hide lol.


And I have one that thinks he's a stud, I gelded early and he was socialized with geldings and studs, never alone but is really excited around a mare.
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We have one that was gelded at a year and one that was gelded at 4. Still young, but it might give you some perspective. The one who was gelded at year was gelded because he broke his fencing, broke another pasture and bred his 1/2 sister. She got regumate and he got gelded. He still acts like a big deal and will push his mare and other gelding around. The 4 year old was gelded at the track when he would kick the stalls at other studs. He hates all other horses. Mares, geldings he just has no interest in them. He is totally polite with people and has no problem pushing all other horses away from any people in the area so they can dedicate their attention on him. That maybe gelding it may be the result of 14 years at the track living in largely a solitary environment, it might just be him.

I have met some nasty studs that were gelded at 5 and 6 years and now just nasty geldings. Less nasty then they were as studs but not nice. If I were you I would try this new gelding out a few weeks (6-8) after he is gelded. It takes about 8 weeks for the hormones to go from stallion to gelding level. Which means that most of his behaviors at that time (good or bad) would be more personality/training than hormones.
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IMO it has a lot to do with previous training. If you train the horse to be a well mannered, quiet stallion, when you geld him he will most likely be a well mannered, quiet geldinh. A 'do what I want when I want because I have balls' stallion though? Highly unlikely that it will suddenly quiet down a whole lot once he's gelded, even if he isn't necessarily interested in the mares.

We had a foundation bred Quarter Horse stallion who we kept intact while he was being shown and earning points, then we bred him twice to see if his performance abilities carried over. When we found that his offspring didn't have quite the quality that he had, we made the decision that it was unfair to him to keep him as a stallion and gelded him. He was about 14 at the time. He was a very quiet, well behaved stallion, and that carried right on into him being gelded. He was being turned out in a mixed herd 6 months after being gelded and I never once saw him try to herd the mares or mount them, and he wasn't gelding aggressive. His performance ability actually increased as well, and he was in general a happier guy because he didn't have to be isolated any more. We recently sold him but we've used him many times as an 'uncle gelding' for our colts, to teach them their manners. He was great. The only thing I ever noticed about him was that he was the alpha of the herd, and no one ever really challenged him about it,



Opposite of that was our gelding Noah (r.i.p) who was supposively gelded at 10 months. He had a LOT of studdy characteristics even when we got him off of the track, that had to be worked out. He would attack other geldings when mares were around, and he was VERY moody and tried his best to ignore his handler (which was aweful since he was 17.2hh) when the girls were around. The one time we did try pasturing him with mares, he immediately got a 'girlfriend' and started acting like an idiot any time we took her or him away, and broke multiple fences. He ended up having to be pastured either on his own or with Buddy, because he'd injure the other horses otherwise. He even ripped open our 19 month old gelding's neck once over some hay! I think it had a lot to do with lack of socialization and training early on, and I'm convinced that if someone had worked on it, he wouldn't have had to live his life in solitude.

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My father had a proud cut gelding, and he acted just as he would with his testies intact. He would mount the mares (And fake cover), and he was downright nasty to geldings...
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