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post #1 of 42 Old 03-07-2013, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
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Taking on a Rearer

So, i posted up a photo at one time of a horse i was interested in taking on. He was given to a woman at my stable, who has tried method after method with this horse, but none in the right direction. everythings been harsh bits, heavy hands, and angry faces. hes nervous, reactive, just generally so anxious he cant even see straight. he bites, he kicks, but most disturbingly, he rears. and not in an, im gonna get you way, in an omg stop it please kind of way. he doesnt want anybody near his mouth, or face. im pretty sure his teeth need doing, but he exhibits this behavior even in a hackamore which leads me to believe its all in his head.

if he spooks, he goes up, if he doesnt want to go, he goes up.

well, shes trying to sell him again. 800 obo. ive offered her 200, and ill cover his missed board. if she cant find anybody within the next couple of weeks, he'll be moving from c barn, to b barn to be with my mares, and be completely brought back down to roundpen and ground work. then saddling again til he stops the biting and the awing and the crow hopping, then it'll be pony pony pony for a LONGGGGGGG time off both Anne and Abby, to get him solid in his tack and off property. then,, ill be hopping on him ad riding him like hes never been broke before. no tension on the reins, his choice in speeds at whatever gaits, and EVERY rear gets a disengaged hindquarter and canter laps.


however, i find myself needing a bit on encouragement. i know i can ride him out, i know i can fix him, give him the ability to trust somebody whos not going to be ripping his mouth to shreds (i plan on only riding in a hack for a long time). im not sure why im apprehensive about it... hes 13yrs old, still young enough to go on and do something neat. but i wonder if he'll ever be sane enough for a less than experienced rider, whats his possible resale with training, etc.

Im kinda hoping i can post our progress here, should i end up with him. but for now, i was just wondering what you guys would have to say on this?
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Good luck and be safe, you are braver than I!
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I say he is beautimous and should you decide not to follow through with him then bring him to me in Bay County,Fl. and I will dedicate all the time he needs after I get the 2 others ahead of him ready.
I'll have one ready for my 12 year old daughter to ride full on by summer and the other is only needing refinished under saddle for my wife.
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Well, if you are brave enough to take on a confirmed rearer, then you don't need any encouragement from me. I'd run the other way.
However, I can see that he is a perfectly gorgous horse, and if you can get him to not rear he should be worth something purely based on his looks.

Good luck and it will be interesting to hear how you go about it. As I said, I know nothing about how to deal with a rearer, so simply avoid that.
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beauty is as beauty does. Right now, his poor face is so sunburnt, and she keeps putting zinc on it, and hes jsut got NO hair between his eyes or down his nose. it makes me cringe when she puts his rawhide noseband on him. the hack i picked up when i first thought of buying him is all fleece lined and comfy, but i wouldnt dream of putting it on him til he had some face fuzz.

besides that, hes soooooooo mouthy. got a rope in your hands, nom. bridle, nom. food, nom. just standing there, nom. some of the people who work with him smack him for it, some back im up, some just shoo him away, some think its cute. the poor thing has no consistency.

cinching hes a sweety, but when he sees you coming with that saddle, its cow kick cow kick cow kick CROW HOP cow kick, skitter, bounce, cow kick, ok fine, saddle. getting on, he stands perfectly still, sometimes, until your across his back, then he trots off with his head in the air in anticipation of the jerk backwards, at which he finds air with his fronts.

recently, ive begun to refuse to be out there while they're riding him. it makes me sad. hes so worked up.

i quess im kinda wondering if he just has tooo much damage to become a good horse again. i wonder if hes taken so much on, that his personality is now just mean from the handing. i think thats maybe why im apprehensive......
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Its worth a shot. If you get into it and find its not working or he is beyond help then you can always euthanize him. Which realistically may be where he is headed without your intervention. How high has he been going up? In my opinion, there is a difference between a horse that rears (pops his front legs up) out of confusion or poor training and a horse that rears and flips itself over. One might have hope and the other is harder to help.

Edit: he sounds like he is farther down the path then my boy was when I got him back from training. He would get so antsy during saddling. It took a while (about 9 months) but he has improved. He now stands for saddling, and does not offer to rear when something scary gets him going. I found that the change in bit was huge.

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Personally, I wouldn't take him on...and I dang sure wouldn't actually give money for him.

The biggest problem with a rearer is that any fix that actually seems to improve them is generally not a permanent solution. A horse learns best what they learn first and most "problem" horses will revert to their original actions in extreme circumstances, even years after their last lapse.

If you understand the risks and are willing to deal with them, then I'll just wish you good luck. I hope you can help him.
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That is what I would worry about, is it wired in his brain to rear as a reaction to something that frustrates him. You may remove all the reasons he started rearing in the first place, but some point in time, something in his retraining might frustrate him and he could go back to a reaction he knows best. Roadyy posted he could take him on if you run into problems, I am assuming he knows how to rehab rearers, brave soul.
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At his age I'm not too sure how he'll work out and bear in mind that there are lots of problem free horses out there right now being sold very cheaply or given away.
That doesnt say they dont all deserve a chance but its worth thinking about weighed up against the risks
I would work him tacked up on the lunge first before even thinking about getting on him and also get him checked over for any possible pain related problems in his face and also his back
Avoiding him getting into the rearing situation is better than being able to ride the rear as that helps break the habit cycle - again doesnt mean not asking him to do stuff but figuring out the points at which he decides to rear and you changing his point of focus before he gets there
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The first step would be a vet and chiro. Most rearing is a result of some sort of pain in the back, teeth, shoulder. If you can afford some diagnostic work, I'd take him. If not, I'd not mess with it.

I felt like a monster once, when I was a teenager, when I got all over a bucker and did correct him. Found out later he had a back problem.
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