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post #11 of 42 Old 03-07-2013, 12:00 PM Thread Starter
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im not taking him on because i need another horse, or anything mroe than i think he deserves better, and the woman is willing to let him go cheap to me. Id rather be sweating bullets fixing him myself tha watching him wide eyed and terrified getting whipped around the ring by his face. Its my belief that thats where his rearing comes from, but then again, ive only ridden this horse a handfull of times, and never consistently.

when he rears, depending on how worked up he is, he can get pretty high. if your asking him to go and he doesnt want to, its just little pops off the ground. When watching his owner work with him, he gives multiple signs before he really rears. leaning back on the hanches, head tossing, nipping. he does this while she fiddles with his bit, bridle, halter, ropes, etc. she doesnt pay much attention to where things are hitting him, eyes teeth, sore face, etc. the more she fiddles the higher he goes. six inches, se pulls him down jerks the bit around a bunch and backs him up. upon backing, 2ft up. more jerking, pulling, mouth ripping, up again, repeat. by the end, shes screaming and hes popping rears over her head and nearly doing the moon walk to get away from her hands.

after a bit of this, the sight of a bridle had him pinning his ears. then a woman fromt he track, one of the kinder racing people arund me wokred with him on the briddle, and got a hackmmore on him. then they complained he bucked instead of reared. id buck if you bounced around on my kidneys and spine like that too.

Im almost positive hes off in his left hip. he drops it heavy in the trot, like a 70 yr old with ciatic issues. a chiro visit is for sure in order for this boy. and probably some hot/cold therapy too.

i dont much like his attitude right now im appalled at his coat health and skin, (his weight is good though). im hoping kinder treatment and time wil bring out a happier horse... i guess ill never know til i give him the chance though...
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I would imagine he doesn't like his attitude much right now either. If he' s in pain, I'm sure he has a bad attitude. Does the owner know that backing is encouraging him to rear? Yeah, he deserves better.

Chiro, vet and 30 days of rest is what I would do before I started messing with him and then I'd start from the ground up. Sounds like a fun project.
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thats what i was thinking, only ill be doing ground work during those thirty days. i dont have pasture to put him in, so he'll have to be handled going in and out during the day. i dont want him rearing up or tearing off the arm of one of our less than horsey people. thirty days nothing but treats and grooming and walking around on a lead, and probably a bunch for vet visits too. im going to have his teeth checked and a chiro out. hes going to go an a multi-vitamin and get some sunscreen and a new mask for his poor face. and maybe a seatbelt fluff thing for his halter :(

and if i get to where i cant figure him out, every body here will be the first to know :)
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He's a puzzle for sure. If there's nothing physically wrong, he probably just needs a new start with a competent trainer.
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I think he can be retrained. It will take a while though.

But as others said, once a rearer, always a rearer. They do have a tendancy to fall back on that if their mind blanks and they don't know how else to get the message across.

However, if his main issue is fear of the mouth, I have seen rearers brought out of that rather sucessfully. Its the ones who rear out of stubborness that will get ya'.
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That is what I would worry about, is it wired in his brain to rear as a reaction to something that frustrates him. You may remove all the reasons he started rearing in the first place, but some point in time, something in his retraining might frustrate him and he could go back to a reaction he knows best. Roadyy posted he could take him on if you run into problems, I am assuming he knows how to rehab rearers, brave soul.
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I can't say I'm an expert with rearing horses, especially since I'm just getting ropes in my hands again after a few years of hiatus from the horse life. Albeit, I have dealt with a few horses that only knew rearing or bucking as a response to anything and everything. As stated already, PATIENCE,I had A LOT of patience because I enjoyed being around horses no matter their attitude. There was a draw to those who needed more attention because I felt I was learning more every time I worked with them. I doubt I am the best option for him, but would gladly take the time if AP decided down the road he was more than time and energy was available.
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if i cant do it, he'll either be put out to pasture as somebodys pretty pet, euthed or passed on to a more experienced trainer. ive ridden rearers, however they had been a team effort restarted by my former instructor and i, i never did it alone. He'd by my first unsupervised rearing project. Ive taken buckers, bolters and biters alone, but he'll be my first all on my own rearer.

Im hoping i can get him to relax enough around certain people again to realize his mouth is safe, and stop goin up.
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Good luck to you AP. I pray it works out for him.
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Temper pops don't bother me, but you say he does these first & his rider jerks his face and backs him after this??? The rider is pretty much leading the horse in the direction to rear if this is the case!
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OP, if you do get this horse and get his physical discomfort dealt with, he is an excellent candidate for lots of grounddriving, everywhere! I had fixed a few bouncers doing this, and it never gets to the point where you put yourself in danger in the saddle.
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