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post #11 of 17 Old 07-05-2010, 04:36 PM
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I'd threaten her with legal action and see if that helps. Is he tattoo'd?
Arabs don't get tattooed for registry purposes. You can choose to have them tattooed or branded, but it has nothing to do with the registry. I believe Thoroughbreds are one of the only breeds that are tattooed as part of the registration process.

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post #12 of 17 Old 07-05-2010, 04:56 PM Thread Starter
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Yes I have the bill from the website, it says he is registered, plus I have emails of her stating he is registered. I just want his papers, I love him I mean, I wouldn't care that he is registered or not. But the fact that I thought he was registered, and I don't know if she's lying or not bothers me.
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post #13 of 17 Old 07-05-2010, 11:57 PM
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If you have his registered name, all you need is someone with an AHA membership to look him up online - I used to have a couple friends who'd look up all my info for me when I was researching the bloodlines on my horses.

Obviously you still want his papers, but if it's a huge fight and you want to determine his true age, it's simple as 1, 2, 3 to find someone on HF with an online membership to search him up. Make a post in the breeding forum - I did that for my Paint filly and some kind soul looked her parents up on the APHA website for me!

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post #14 of 17 Old 08-31-2010, 05:31 PM Thread Starter
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If you have his registered name, all you need is someone with an AHA membership to look him up online - I used to have a couple friends who'd look up all my info for me when I was researching the bloodlines on my horses.

Obviously you still want his papers, but if it's a huge fight and you want to determine his true age, it's simple as 1, 2, 3 to find someone on HF with an online membership to search him up. Make a post in the breeding forum - I did that for my Paint filly and some kind soul looked her parents up on the APHA website for me!
Thanks Soo much! I'm going to try that on the forum! I have looked on the registry cause I know is full name but I can't find him. I can find his mom, and dad but not him.
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post #15 of 17 Old 08-31-2010, 05:39 PM
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what is his registered name? If he was used as a stud and the foals registered, it should be somewhere. It sounds to me like you bought a horse as registered and she sold him as such, but there aren't any papers and she lied to sell him quicker. Because she won't even give you a number makes me think he has either never been registered or stolen. I would have an attorney send a letter demanding the papers or that you will persue legal action on her. It doesn't cost much to get a lawyer to send a letter, might scare her.
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post #16 of 17 Old 08-31-2010, 05:44 PM
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I hate to be the skeptic but I would probably lean towards him being either unregistered or she really may have lost his papers. If she really has lost the papers, tell her you would like HER to apply for a duplicate copy.

If he were stolen, I doubt his seller would still be answering emails.

If he wasn't registered, I doubt his seller would still be answering emails.

I would guess that he was at one time registered and she honestly lost the papers. Its expensive and a drawn out process to get duplicate papers without proof of registration. Do arabs do dna?
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post #17 of 17 Old 08-31-2010, 06:00 PM
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Yes arabs have to have DNA IF, IF they are to be breeders and want any folas registered. If any mare is to have foals and you want them registered she must be DNA bloodtype. Same for stallions. Now if you arent going to breed.. them.. why pay to get them DNA? My gelding, while half registered, isnt DNA typed but his momma had to be so I could register him. Even as a half arab she had to be DNA typed.

If he IS registered you can eventually track his papers down. If the seller was indeed the LAST REGISTERED OWNER then she has to get the duplicate copies. But if she never transferred the paperwork you can ONLY get papers from the LAST registered owner(s) of the horse. AHA does not budge nor give out ANY information. I know, took me 9 years!! to get my old geldings papers. And that only because we ran into his original owner- his breeder- and she recognized him. Now he was 18 at that time and she hadnt see him since he was 2 yrs old! So... yes he had a personality. Anyway, she contacted the AHA and the papers were NEVER transferred out of her name. So she got a duplicate set and then signed them over to us! I was such a happy camper.

So dont despare. It may come about. It does help to have a registration number. And not sure, but they may listed last registered owner on the database. Not a memeber and dont subscribe to the database as i am not a breeder or seller.
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