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post #11 of 26 Old 11-11-2013, 03:54 PM
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Hope you're friend recovers - very nasty learning experience
The woman may well get sued - our insurance company questioned if the horse that unintentionally kicked my husband resulting in a trip for an X ray belonged to us - which she does. I got the impression that they intended to go after the owner if it had been otherwise.
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post #12 of 26 Old 11-11-2013, 04:43 PM
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That sucks. Before I go out to see a horse I ask them if someone will be there to ride it first so I can see how it goes under saddle. Once I just got on, but it was for a free lease horse that was a friend of a friend, not a stranger out for money.

I hope your friend gets better, and people read things like this and realise you can't just get on all horses and hope they are fine.

Once I was going to start riding a friends horse regularly, they got on it and rode first and it was fine. I got on and it bucked immediately - so even then, someone else riding doesn't guarantee it.

As much as it sucks and it's totally awful, I don't think the owner should be sued. People shouldn't be sued just because they lie. Horses are dangerous - every horse is dangerous. This was a nice free mare that the owner didn't ride - it's to be expected that it's not perfect - how many more "warning signs" does someone need? The more people sue in the horse world the more expensive things are, and the harder it is to do things. If it was a professional trainer, riding school or something that misled someone, then fine, sue. Just a dodgy person giving away a horse? Nah. Every horse person knows that any horse can do something like this - it's the inherent risk of our activity.
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post #13 of 26 Old 11-11-2013, 07:32 PM
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I'm really sorry your friend was injured so badly. However, lots of people sell horses because they are physically unable to ride them, or are not skilled enough. The owner not being able to ride the horse doesn't necessarily mean I walk away from a sale. Lots of horses would never find homes if everyone walked away if the owner couldn't ride them. Sometimes even if the owner does ride, the horse may still hurt you. I have had a few horses shock me and be really ugly for an unfamiliar person.

It is a good idea to be careful with an unfamiliar horse though. I treat a new horse like they are 3 years old and it's their first time. I try to test a horse in an enclosed space in my own tack, and I don't hop on right away. I weight the saddle and lean over without swinging a leg over so if they rear or bolt, I can dismount safely. It's also good to check that bit pressure doesn't freak them out before you get on. I do think that if you're not up to handling common misbehavior, you should take a trainer with and have them ride first. No matter what, there is risk, though, and freak accidents happen.

PS: Please don't take this like I'm saying your friend made some big mistake. I have no idea what happened, and no reason to believe she didn't know what she was doing. Sometimes we just get really unlucky.
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post #14 of 26 Old 11-11-2013, 07:39 PM
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I'm still looking back in amazement that I test rode Gibbs, at all paces, even the lope, which I hadn't even tried on the horses I had owned for a while, some horses you just kind of know are alright......................or you just get dumb luck.

Yeah, ride a totally strange horse one day, got out into hospital by a horse I had owned for 18 months the next day, just goes to show, you never know.

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post #15 of 26 Old 11-12-2013, 09:38 PM
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Oh my gawd!!! I hope the person is ok, my worst, worst nightmare.

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post #16 of 26 Old 11-12-2013, 10:26 PM
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I won't even lie that is the exact reason I will no longer own a saddle with a horn. Call me paranoid, but after reading stories about people with crushed sternums and faces gored off I just thought it's better to NOT have a big sticky-up thing that I never use that would conveniently line up with my chest should a horse flip on me.

I now have my Aussie, and I don't plan on going back!
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post #17 of 26 Old 11-12-2013, 11:36 PM
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How is your friend doing?

In my younger years, I would hop on any horse without really giving it much thought, or concern. Now I ask the owner to ride first.
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post #18 of 26 Old 11-13-2013, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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I haven't heard the full extent yet of her injuries. The friend who was with her when this happened called me last night and could only talk a minute.. She said the girl has a broken vertebrae and the Doctor said if the horn had hit a fraction of an inch closer to her liver it would have hit a major vein (artery?) and she would have bled out quickly, long before help could even have gotten to her.

I ride English. Many years ago friends talked me into using a western saddle on a competitive ride. At that time I was riding my mule. On the ride you had to jump over some gulleys as well as jump down into some and then out . Don't know what my mule saw but as we jumped he saw something that told him to not land there. He twisted in the air to land more to the left. The horn caught me in the ribs, breaking two. That was a fun twenty miles after that to finish the ride. After that you could not pay me to compete in a western saddle yet I have friends who feel unsafe in an English.

I don't see the point in having a horn unless you need to rope or pull something.

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post #19 of 26 Old 11-13-2013, 11:38 AM Thread Starter
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Just heard from my friend again about the injured gal. Now they are saying she has pneumonia. How in the world did that happen from this?

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post #20 of 26 Old 11-13-2013, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by acorn View Post
Just heard from my friend again about the injured gal. Now they are saying she has pneumonia. How in the world did that happen from this?
Doesn't mean it happened from that. Could be entirely coincidental.
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