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post #1 of 5 Old 11-19-2010, 12:55 PM Thread Starter
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Too Soon? (a tad long)

So, before my Oldenburg actually sold, i was already looking into other horses. We went and visited a trainer that had some Morgans (because i figured i wanted i a Morgan) and thats how i ended up with my 2 current mares. I was able to get a very reasonable deal on 2 nicely bred 3yos with loads of potential...but for disciplines i have no experience in.

They were shipped to me the week after my horses sold, and like 3 weeks after he had been gone (he was on a 2wk trial). I like them...sure. I think they will be really cool show horses, but im having 2nd thoughts...a lot.

I began looking back on what my plan was 3 years ago before i graduated high school: go to college majoring in vet tech/equine studies, spend a few years doing working student positions in dressage barns, and eventually do dressage training/showing/breeding as a full time job. I love dressage, everything about it. Its hard work, but work that really pays off. Its a universal sport that can be used to strenghten your horse in any discipline. Since i first stumbled across dressage, and started researching it, i thought that was the perfect discipline for me.

The same year i bought Carnegie (my oldenburg) i began showing Morgans in Hunt Seat pleasure and eq. I love the morgan shows...they are exciting, the horses are awesome to watch and its just a fun time. I really started getting into showing the morgans, and out of dressage...though i still had my WB. I also started working on a QH farm last year with reining prospects which was fun, but im pretty well over that now. Dont get me wrong, reining is addictive and really fun, but probably not for me. beginning to wonder if i made a mistake with buying these 2 morgan mares right away, before taking a step back and evaluating what i want to pursue in my horse career. I keep thinking about Dressage, just about everyday. Its an expensive sport, all equestrian sports are really. But there are a lot of good trainers in my area, but i cant afford their it on their horses, trailering in, or they come to me. That is part of the reason i sold Carnegie, was because he was ready for the next step and i wasnt sure how to go about getting him there correctly. I could read and watch everything, but there is a HUGE difference in doing that and actually physically learning how to do it right.

What do you guys think? I think these 2 horses i have now will be great in the show ring, but maybe they arent right for me. They arent broke, just learning to lunge, dont know anything at the moment. I dont really know what to do. The previous owner said he would take them back, full refund if they didnt work out....but i dont know.

Im in a pickle, i need advice.
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post #2 of 5 Old 11-19-2010, 01:07 PM
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The whole time I read your post I kept thinking "why two?", why or how would you possibly train two horses in a discipline you don't know enough about to train. Sounds like you have ridden Morgans but since you were showing you were most likey riding finished (or close to it) horses correct? You seem smart enough to know there's. Difference in riding and training a greenie and something more knowledgeable.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you could put the basics on these horses but with the little info about your situation I know I would say give them back and learn more about the breed and how they're trained or buy something you can train dressage.

Also...if you only had one horse, could you technically use the money you wouldve used to support a second horse towards working with a dressage trainer in your area?
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post #3 of 5 Old 11-19-2010, 01:16 PM Thread Starter
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Well, the Morgan i was showing was far from push button. She knew how to wtc OK...but was out of shape, stiff, and very hard on the bit. I had to spend a lot of time getting her working correctly for the Hunt Seat division.

The two i have now will be better suited for the saddleseat divisions, mainly park and english pleasure. My BF trains morgans, and when the time comes to start really putting the work on them, he will be able to advise what to do and when. I got the 2 because...well, i guess so i could breed one and show the other later down the road, or possibly start one to resell.

When i bought carnegie, he was green broke, did the basic WTC and i was still pretty novice in dressage (attempting it with a HUS appendix QH who dispised everything about dressage didnt help) I was working with a trainer at the time too.
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Personally, I would not breed one mare on the hopes that she can make you some money while you show the other one. If anything with this plan, I would put the training on the two of them then sell one and try to make money to further the career of the other. If you are trying to think of this in a business sense, you need to think of these horses as assets and not pets. Therefore you should be seeking to maximize your profit. If your boyfriend trains Morgans, this is a win-win for the both of you: he can get name recognition, you can make money.
Keeping two horses of little experience that you really cannot help along without the help of a trainer (at least to the stage of being good show horses) makes little economical sense to me. Plus, you have a young, smart mare (I have a Morgan myself). Look at the opportunity in this: this mare, if developed correctly, will most likely appreciate in value. Having a horse that is easy to sell and worth a pretty penny does nothing but open doors for you as a horseperson.

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post #5 of 5 Old 11-20-2010, 01:24 AM
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Nothing, in its definition, is too soon or too late, these are just labels from your perspective. About what you should do...well we cannot answer that. You need to decide what you want, and what people on a forum are going to say won't really influence that.

Here is what I would do to figure out the situation if I were in your position. I'd write down these questions and answer them. I'd try and cut myself down to one sentence answers.

Where am I now? (What you are doing in this point in your life - not what you want, wanted, have or had.)
What did I want in my past, and how does this influence my present?
What do I want at this point in time for my future?
What are my assets (horses, money, skills, experience, support etc) and liabilities (horses, debts, committments etc)?
What path is best to achieve what I want for my future?
What do I need to achieve my future? (horses, money, skills, experience, location change)
What is the next action I can take to achieve what I want for my future?

Once you have figured that out you'll know what to do. If you want to continue Morgan showing your horses are an asset and the next step can be training them, if you would rather pursue dressage then they are a liability and you should consider returning them. Although perhaps Morgan Showing is a means to an end.

Once you work out these things everything will be clearer and you can make the best choice.
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