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post #1 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 12:31 PM Thread Starter
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transferring ownership with registry

Hello - I am new to this forum and just wanted some opinions. We recently purchased a horse for my daughter. He is registered with the AWR. Long story short when I tried to transfer ownership they told me the description in the bill of sale did not match their records (I had the original certificate from AWR for the horse that I sent them with all previous owners signing in the appropriate areas). They want me to purchase a DNA test kit for $210 (or $180 if I become a member at $75 and then purchase the kit for $105 which is member price). This is a lot of money to transfer ownership and I just wanted your opinions on whether or not I should do this. He is a gelding and my daughter got him for 3 -day eventing. Any suggestions? Thanks. I have already sent them $80 to transfer ownership. The $210 or $180 is in addition to the $80.

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post #2 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 12:41 PM
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Are you sure you bought the right horse, and weren't scammed?
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post #3 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 12:46 PM Thread Starter
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No, it's the same horse. I think the confusion is that in most of his records he is listed as a Holsteiner. The barn manager wrote up the bill of sale and everyone there believes he has some arabian in him so the bill of sale said holsteiner/arabian cross. I'm sure that is where the confusion is, but its the same horse. I'm sure if the bill of sale said just holsteiner I wouldn't have been asked to do the DNA test. Is it worth it to do the test? Oh, and I have no problem doing the DNA test except it's so expensive and I don't know if I need to spend the money on it since he's not for breeding and is ridden for eventing.

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post #4 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 01:40 PM
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You may need him to be registered to you to show him in the shows you want him to compete in. Might want to check out the rules of the shows you want to be in. Some may require the horse to be registered while others might not.
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post #5 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 01:54 PM Thread Starter
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Ah thanks - never thought of that. He is registered with the USEA and I know all the shows my daughter has competed in (not many, she's only done 3 shows and not with this horse) she had to be registered with the USEA. The USEA does not require DNA testing though to transfer ownership.

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post #6 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 02:20 PM
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I think that the only reason the are requiring a DNA sample is because the registry is worried about transferring a horse's ownership when the paperwork they have on file doesn't match. They would be held liable, kinda like a hospital switching babies by accident. All the registry sees is paperwork, not the actual horses or people. Most of the time when you transfer a horse to yourself, and are not a member of their registry, you're paying a higher transfer fee that includes a membership. At least the cost of the DNA test would be a one time cost, and prove once and for all you bought the horse the bill of sale claims you purchased ;)
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post #7 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 03:29 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks. I guess it just seems like a lot to me paying close to $300 to transfer an owner's name, but I understand what you're saying. I'm not against having him DNA tested because I know it's him. It's just really expensive. Of course, this comes at a time when we just paid $15,000 for the horse, $2000 (and still counting for tack), $760 pre purchase exam, lessons, boarding, etc... I just wish the fee was more like $40 - $50 like UC Davis charges which incidentally is the lab the registry uses for DNA testing. Gah - I knew horses were expensive, but. . . LOL

Thanks for your advice.

Nancy

I guess I'm just a bit overwhelmed being a new horse owner LOL.
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post #8 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 04:29 PM
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Spend the extra money, the horse is worth more for resale purposes.
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post #9 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 04:34 PM
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Hello - I am new to this forum and just wanted some opinions. We recently purchased a horse for my daughter. He is registered with the AWR. Long story short when I tried to transfer ownership they told me the description in the bill of sale did not match their records (I had the original certificate from AWR for the horse that I sent them with all previous owners signing in the appropriate areas). They want me to purchase a DNA test kit for $210 (or $180 if I become a member at $75 and then purchase the kit for $105 which is member price). This is a lot of money to transfer ownership and I just wanted your opinions on whether or not I should do this. He is a gelding and my daughter got him for 3 -day eventing. Any suggestions? Thanks. I have already sent them $80 to transfer ownership. The $210 or $180 is in addition to the $80.

Nancy
I don't know anything about this registry but it seems to me that the bill of sale is what started this; why can't the sellers make a correct bill of sale that matches the registry's information on the horse? After all, they represented the horse as registered, but if it is not able to be registered due to their incorrect information, it seems to me that you have a bit of leverage with them to clear up the matter.
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post #10 of 14 Old 12-11-2011, 04:49 PM
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I also like the idea of a corrected bill of sale. Maybe that would clear up the matter.
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