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post #11 of 86 Old 11-13-2010, 05:43 PM
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Ill fitting tack and improper horsemanship can hurt a horse.
Proper tack and horsemanship don't.

I think I have made my point.
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post #12 of 86 Old 11-13-2010, 05:54 PM
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I have to agree. No offense OP, but it honestly sounds to me like some bleeding heart "They're only happy if they are free........but if you can't do that, bitless and bareback is the next best thing" fanatic. You know, I am all for making sure that the horse is comfortable and well cared for, properly trained on how to carry themselves and has a good rider, but to say that riding in general and saddles are damaging the horse? Let's be a little realistic here. Horses living in the wild generally have a life expectancy of what, 15? 12? Horses in captivity, even horses that are ridden every day and competed on are consistently living longer and sounder lives. There are horses at 30 years old still out there going strong under saddle, more than twice the 'wild' life expectancy. Preventing injury and damage to your horse is one of the reasons for a person to learn to ride properly and well, avoid bouncing around and flopping on the back, teach the horse to round it's back and carry itself well, and recognize the signs when something isn't right so that it can be corrected.
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I think it was very interesting. People are obviously just responding to it critically because they are ignoring the truth. I found it to be true though. Think about it- those famous show horses out there wouldn't be where they are now without the painful training. If they didn't have to go through the training, they would be a "normal" horse-free. Those wild mustangs out there are fearful of humans because we havn't put them through the "brain-washing" yet.

But there are some horse-owners out their that do treat their horses with respect. The only one's that bother me are the people that ride...but only for being good at riding. They don't even care about the horse, they don't tae the time to figure out the why. They just punish it for something that may not even be their fault.

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^^ True but remember there are people who do love their horses and do love riding, and this guy is pretty much saying everyone who uses a bit is an axe murderer

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^^ True but remember there are people who do love their horses and do love riding, and this guy is pretty much saying everyone who uses a bit is an axe murderer

Yes, the article was a bit dramatic. I know there are people out there who genuinely love both. But it makes me sick watching girls at my barn smack their horses, because "they were going to fast". People need to learn how to use their body and communicate with the horse!!

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He has recently announced that he has stopped riding all together due to him believing its not worth it for the horse's health. But I believe its because his horses have become too dangerous to handle. He has a whole idea of "let the horse teach you its ways"..... yeah... sure... more like "let's let the horse become alpha over you and push you around".... if you think that's not true natural horsemanship, just take a day or two to watch how wild horses act in the wild
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I think his amazing to watch!! But i thought i should ask, is this his idea of "let the horse teach you his way" "aka becoming alpha"? If it is, it doesnt seem to be working in this pic!! Is it just me or is the horse biting him?

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LOL, I looked through some of his stuff and this guy is what I would call a cluck. That is an idiot with a completely twisted and skewed view of the world. What I don't get is that just riding a horse is so horrible for their health but stuff like this is still okay?? Anyone else feeling the fanatical hypocrite vibe?
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Cause, yeeaaahh, that's so much easier on their bodies than just riding them around :roll:.

Or better yet, it is to much better on their legs and feet to do stuff like this over and over and over.
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^^^

That's just weird.

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holy cow, I've never heard of that guy, what a fruitcake!

I don't think we're defensive because it's "true." I think we're somewhere between dumbstruck with how wacko that "trainer" is and how funny these bunnyhuggers can be....

look, horses were used by man for how many thousands of years?! If they weren't meant to be used, they would become crippled or never learn in the first place. I have started and trained a lot of horses, some I was able to be quiet and slow with, others had to be knocked down a notch. I'm guessing the author of those articles has never had to start a 2year old stud colt who can buck so high you can literally be eye level with the rafters...

if being "wild and free" was really their eutopia, then why do horses come to you in the pasture? why do some have so much heart you can tell they want to win as bad as you do? why do they submit to us when we have never raised a hand at them? why do "natural horsemanship" techniques in a roundpen for the most partt WORK? and if they were so sore and didn't want to be ridden, why don't they resist it? Why do they stand there and let us put a halter on them and lead them out to the crossties and saddle them and go ride them?

this article and that trainer are full of premises that just don't make sense.
and BTW, I love that pic of that black horse biting his shoulder. priceless. some people deserve what they get. like those idiots that have pet lions and boa constrictors.... DUH!

ok, that was a good read. now I think I'm gonna go shine up my spur straps, lol.
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