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post #61 of 86 Old 12-05-2010, 12:12 PM
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Lol levitating saddles... I would rather have full contact..... then no contact at all.
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post #62 of 86 Old 12-07-2010, 12:44 AM
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Oh yeah, the picture of that guy making horse leaping into the air is OH so natural.. that's what they do in the wild all the time..... HAH!

And of course, bits are the most cruel things ever invented... I'm pretty sure you could do more damage to a horse with a stick than you could ever do with a bit.

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post #63 of 86 Old 12-07-2010, 12:57 AM
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Oh and as for riding bareback... I have to say I'm not a great fan of that. Every now and then for a short amount of time is acceptable, but you have to realise that you're sitting directly on your horse's spine, and the channel down the middle of your saddle is there for a reason; to protect the horse's spine from unneccesary weight.

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post #64 of 86 Old 12-07-2010, 11:29 AM
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About that "Scientific testing video", the sound doesn't work on my looser computer so I couldn't hear what they were saying but in college I was a bio major. What I saw was bad science. There was no bridle holding the bit properly static when they used the pounds per "jerk" scale, the test rider wasn't holding the reins properly and it doesn't take into account the suction of a closed mouth on the bit or the starting position of the bit in the horses mouth. Therefore they discounted at lease 4 variables that are directly related to proper functioning of the bit. All they tested was the test rider's strength in "jerking". What they could have done also and gotten the same result was to tie a string directly to the scale. That equates to bad science. The whole thing looks like a bad infomercial for people who don't know what they are talking about and only feeds the fire for the PETA types. It is not science, it is emotional herding of sheeples to the extremest groups.

A proper experiment would have been to attach the scale to a bit in a live horse then attached the reins to the other end of the scale. Then repeated the "Jerk" about 100 times with the test rider holding the reins properly. THAT would have been acurate science.

Think about what happened to the riding horses and draft horses shortly after the start of the use of the gas engine. Thousands of horses without jobs. Bad stuff if you ask me.

I had a convo with a few of the girls I work with about the race horse industry. People who don't have a first had look at any industry shouldn't point fingers or claim to know everything relating to it and shouldn't preach negatively about it until they have a full first hand grasp of all the industry intales. It is ignorance that breeds a lot of cruelty. One of the girls said that it's inhumane to make horses run like that. Hmm, well tell that to the horses who love to run, tell that to Zynetta, Secretariat, Seabiscut, Man O' War, etc. They didn't get that memo. Tell Border Collies that herding sheep is inhumane too.

I'm not saying there are bad apples, I'm all for balance and proper treatment in every industry. I love horse sports and so do the horses. The wackos will not hear that nor will they listen to reason or see the desire horses have to do their jobs well, but the border line people will. It is our job as pro, semi-pro and amateurs to prove to the people who might be one of those borderline people that we do care, that we do bust our butts for our horses and that our horses bust their butts for us too, and like to work.

Good science may have made me think differently. Bad science is a lie that offends my intelligence and only proves to me that they are extremists. So again, critical thinking and ask lots of questions, always question "authority/authorities", ask yourself "What are they really trying to sell?" and question your own actions and improve your personal methods with every ride.
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post #65 of 86 Old 01-22-2011, 02:15 AM
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Oh dont even get me started on SHARK......
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The link didn't work for me:(
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post #67 of 86 Old 01-22-2011, 02:31 AM
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The link didn't work for me:(

me either, but i read up some on him on google and from what these girls/guys are saying he says tack is absolutely horrible...
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post #68 of 86 Old 01-22-2011, 02:37 AM
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me either, but i read up some on him on google and from what these girls/guys are saying he says tack is absolutely horrible...
Lord. I'm glad the link didn't work then. I'd probably go on a rampage.. I hate bullcrap like that.
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post #69 of 86 Old 01-22-2011, 02:41 AM
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I did watch one of their videos from their supposed research center :roll:.
Is it just me or does anyone else see the similarities between this video and those that preach BITLESSBITLESSBITLESS or you'll go to hell? I guess they are going for the shock value but they always choose the videos of the worst of the worst riders on ill-trained horses to show how "horrible and inhumane" the bit is.
YouTube - Nevzorov Haute Ecole Research Centre

I didn't read through the whole thread or even watch the whole video but did anyone else wonder why the guy yanking on the simulators mouth was in show attire and a helmet? I'm pretty sure it isn't that dangerous .

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post #70 of 86 Old 01-23-2011, 03:21 PM
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Ahahahahaa! Nice! ^^

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