Trying hard to not "make waves" at new barn but...what do you do in this situation? - Page 3 - The Horse Forum
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post #21 of 27 Old 06-02-2012, 09:48 PM
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When I ride new horses, or new equipment, I always pester about the tack. ALWAYS. Especially when feeling out new people, and especially trainers. I don't care. Personally, if I noticed the tack flaw, I'd just go up to the trainer and ask, "Is that a hackmore? Huh, wasn't sure. It looks weird, like it's missing a piece. Thought it was something new maybe."

I will talk to trainers in the middle of lessons, not to interrupt them teaching a lesson, but to inquire about what they are teaching and how the student is riding and progressing, and how the horse moves. I had a really good relationship with my instructor back in Memphis, and she knew of my mental blood thirst for horse knowledge, so she never minded if I stood with her and watched her teach. I actually like to do this too when feeling out new instructors. If I stumble upon them teaching a lesson, hell yeah I'm going to watch and ask questions. I need to decide if they're a good choice in trainer for me!

Heck, I tried taking lessons with someone new recently, because I moved to a new area. They had me riding in a Billy Cook saddle, it was a first lesson, just to feel out where I was as a rider before they could decide what to teach me, and the stirrups on the saddle were to short. I ride with a hellish long leg, even though the trainer who owns the saddle is about my height. I got off a bit into a lesson to adjust the stirrups. Got back on, found they still weren't long enough. The trainer said I was fine, my feet were where they were supposed to be. SUPPOSED TO BE?!?!?! Darn it I was over breaking at the ankle and it frickin' hurt!!! Don't ride with that particular trainer any more.

I don't trust people, even "trainers" to know everything about what they are supposedly teaching. Same goes with mechanics. Just because you can turn a wrench, does not make you qualified to work on cars.

Think of it not as a failure but as a success in how not to do it.

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post #22 of 27 Old 06-10-2012, 12:28 AM
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Hello there. I agree with the methods that others have suggested to put forward your opinion, but I'm going to offer an alternative viewpoint.

If you're new there, and want to settle in quietly, I think you should keep your views firmly to yourself. Yes, they are doing it wrong, yes it could be done better, but that situation happens around us all the time, and sometimes you just have to let it go. If you start offering your opinions on what others are doing in your first fortnight there I think someone is going to be offended however tactfully you do it.

If it were me I would tell myself - the mother is an adult, the trainer is an adult, THEY are the ones in charge of this 10 year old, not me. Not My Business.

I know it's frustrating, but the horsey world is so full of know-it-all's that people can so often resent interference no matter how well-meant. Settle in at your barn, focus on your horse, and make friends. Maybe leave this particular battle to be someone elses.

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post #23 of 27 Old 06-10-2012, 12:51 AM
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I will talk to trainers in the middle of lessons, not to interrupt them teaching a lesson, but to inquire about what they are teaching and how the student is riding and progressing, and how the horse moves.
Unless the barn is on fire, a dangerous animal is about to bolt through the arena or other life-threatening emergency, my trainer would very bluntly tell you to shut up, that the student is paying her to pay attention to THEM not some random yahoo that wandered in.

You cannot chat with a trainer mid-lesson and not interrupt the lesson. I watch my trainer give lessons to other people all the time.... lots to be learned by doing that but you better believe my mouth stays shut and my bottom is planted in a chair unless the trainer asks me if I'll haul cones and poles in or out of the arena.
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Unless the barn is on fire, a dangerous animal is about to bolt through the arena or other life-threatening emergency, my trainer would very bluntly tell you to shut up, that the student is paying her to pay attention to THEM not some random yahoo that wandered in.

You cannot chat with a trainer mid-lesson and not interrupt the lesson. I watch my trainer give lessons to other people all the time.... lots to be learned by doing that but you better believe my mouth stays shut and my bottom is planted in a chair unless the trainer asks me if I'll haul cones and poles in or out of the arena.
Wow,I never said anything about interrupting a lesson, that is plain rude.

Old thread. I was able to get the answer though. My daughter was riding Cinny in his rope hackamore and she was interested in it. I explained that DD has rough hands and tends to yank and with Cinnys previous bit avoidance I don't dare let her ride with anything else. Then she told me she puts some of her students in a mechanical hack without a curb for the same reason. They only get to walk and have the useless hack until they learn to use their seat and not the reins to stop and steer.
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post #25 of 27 Old 06-10-2012, 08:24 AM
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Cinny, I believe Delfina said it about Joidigm's comment. And I agree with her - I wouldn't tolerate a stranger interrupting my trainer in the middle of my lesson.
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post #26 of 27 Old 06-10-2012, 09:26 AM
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I know it's frustrating, but the horsey world is so full of know-it-all's that people can so often resent interference no matter how well-meant. Settle in at your barn, focus on your horse, and make friends. Maybe leave this particular battle to be someone elses.
so very well said!!!

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post #27 of 27 Old 06-10-2012, 07:29 PM
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So you got he answer you wanted in a diplomatic way and found out that maybe the trainer knows what she is doing after all. Not everything is always as it seems.
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